It’s time to fill out your bracket – no, not for basketball, for video games! And with this one, you’ll get to pick the winners!

We’ve selected and seeded 64 of the top free-to-play games in existence and need you to let us know which is the best. Several times a week, we’ll open up voting for a bloc of match-ups, leaving it up to you, the MMOBomb.com community to determine who moves on to glory and who is relegated to the digital scrap heap.

The games in our brackets were selected and seeded based on their relative popularity and activity level. We intentionally left off games that have shut down or that have seen minimal support by the developers recently (like Tribes: Ascend) or are in the process of shutting down (Free Realms was on the list when we conceived of it in mid-January – oops) and while we do have a few games on the list that are technically in beta (like SMITE and Hearthstone), we aren’t including games that aren’t widely available for free yet (sorry EverQuest Next Landmark – maybe next year!).

And if you don’t like where your game is seeded? Vote for it! It’s not where you start, but where you finish that matters. I think John Wooden said that…

The Final Confrontation: SMITE vs. Warframe

(voting ends Monday, April 7 at 1 p.m. PDT)

1358 COMMENTS

  1. This isn’t a “which game is better” competition at all. It’s a “which game bribes its player base the most”. So it’s only natural that many of these games will employ bots to get votes (RO and Mabinogi) just to give themselves a bigger e-peen.

    • If Mabingoi is using bots here then they are getting terrible numbers from them. They would do MUCH better by voting manually.

      • I wish everyone would just vote manually to make this fair, but naturally with the promise of rewards, there will be people to exploit it.

    • It’s a competition for the best free MMO, and frankly this also includes how the community is treated, not just game-play, so being promised goods could fall under that category, and therefore this vote is still on track.

      On bots, if there is proof of bots, then I hope MMOBOMB sort it out and return the contest fair, but I’m just wanting this match-up to be finished now, since there’s so much hassle caused…

      • While I do agree with about the “promising goods” part, Kryaldo, it also gives way for people to sink to cheating in order to get those goods. Both RO and Mabi are doing it, which just makes me wish this whole thing over with so people can shut up about it in-game. I would very much like to play without some botter shoving this poll in my face and telling me how to cheat it.

        • (it’s Kry-z-aldo :P) And yeah I do agree that cheating is not the answer, but on this the blame kind of falls toward MMOBOMB as well as the players, since they didn’t really think their choice of polling very well.

          I would suggest in the future that either IP restriction, or just simply being able to make an account to vote, because if you really care about your game you will put in the effort to vote for it, right?

          Personally, though. I would love for planetside 2 to win overall right now, just so both Mabinogi & RO can settle down and realise how over-dramatic and ridiculous they are being, and ruining this competition.

          • Yeah RO is definitally having at least one person bot from the looks of it. i hope mmobomb looks into this now

          • Mabinogi stopped botting this round. Even 4chan doesn’t want anything to do with this anymore.

          • abea25 you can tell how far RO is going because not even a hour went by and they went up 2-5% :/ i was like wow so i hope RO is penalized but i Think MMOBOMB is play favorites right now

          • @ Kryzaldo (yeah I missed the z key last time lol) I started rooting for PlanetSide 2 just to end this. Honestly, both sides are cheating, so both should be DQ’d.

          • Mabi was winning by a lot legit for a while, about 1-2 votes a minute, then RO went from almost 1000 votes to 3000 in less than an hour, so of course some idiot on mabi decided to start cheating to for whatever reason

          • I agree to accounts only votubg but someone is bound to spam it somehow or bot it. From what i know from Mabinogi, someone is actually botting for RO, but not for Mabinogi, most people i knew were just spamming it for the 3x AP event.

            I gave up on this vote when RO’s votes were like 50 votes per minute or so. Before the reset it was like 300 votes per min for Mabinogi or something like that was not even keeping track after 57% during the time.

            I think both games should be out of votes by now or change the voting system or something like that. owo

    • Smite hasn’t bribed it’s players once, apparently they tweeted it, but no bribes, most people only know about this because of the reddit though, and Smite still has crushed every match it had.

          • It wasn’t announced on Warframe. I watched all the recent Prime Times and Dev Streams and it was never mentioned once, nor on the website, in-game or on the forums. I get the feeling they don’t know about it.

          • It wasn’t announced. It was posted on their facebook page. That is about it from what I can see. I do know that Mabinogi has posted they will compensate the community if they win. I don’t know what that means but as far as I am concerned Nexon has too many games that are bot filled for me to vote for them. Not to mention Warframe is pretty fun to play as long as you don’t burn yourself out on it.

          • Warframe posted about the contest on it’s facebook page, and told people about it in game. No rewards are currently being offered for winning this as of yet. Being #1 should be its own reward really.

        • Walframe is cheating I saw 7k votes jump in 30mins and its morning. It’s obvious that they are cheating. No1 that play games get up that early, Most ppl are busy or asleep.

          • If you had those numbers then why did 1/5th of your total votes come from 10 minutes of the survey time?

          • They jumped like that because the developers actually informed everyone about this contest ingame via “news”. I doubt that there were that many Warframe players which actually knew about this contest in the first place, lol.
            And we aren’t really getting any rewards for winning this, unlike the Mabi.

          • pardon my previous brain fart an hours ago.

            Anyway,m yeah. we have TONS of players all over the world. Tons. In every Country. There’s a perk to have a game with 3 million members. Lastly, we are Tenno, not humans. we don’t cheat to win, dude. :3

          • first we are not and second it’s “WARFRAME” not “walframe”
            don’t speak ill about other if u typing words like a noob
            and lastly…RNGods and Redtext were with us

          • Redtext be mighty.
            seriously, redtext is practically revered as a god I think, so when he types a message in chat about the poll being there, people pay attention ^_^

            I looked at the poll just before Redtext sent his message, it was 70% vs 30% with Mabi in the lead iirc. roughly a few minutes after Redtext’s message it was already a tie, with warframe soon after in the lead.

          • I’ll just tell you one thing. We have a developers livestream tomorrow, we had a delay on our update #13 so tons of people will be watching it. If the devs are to say anything about the showdown, shit’s about to go down.

          • Ok so your saying you can see past the “Thank you for voting. The results will be revealed Monday April 7th” and see how many people voted and also that while we have at least one player in literally every country that everyone gets up at the same time you do and they all say screw their own time zone.

          • So your another shitty Thor congrats, you just made us lose in a voting poll as well uninstall SMITE.

          • @Wooffer (since i can’t reply to his comment)
            That’s gonna be a tad bit difficult since i’ve never installed smite in the first place.

            … and Thor uses a shocking hammer, not a blazing one.

          • i am more a warframe guy but both games are good f2p.
            it doesnt matter which game wins.
            at least warframe may be the best or second f2p game at least it is on the top

      • Bribing? you mean the games that actually have reason to win?. yeah because it’s pointless if your favorite game wins nothing =d. at least the ones you claim get bribed. get something out of it.

    • uh no its a popularity contest to see how much people would actually come out to support their game. It’s not a pissing contest, they know its not “the best f2p game” because we ALL know that is only an opinion, and people bring end up bringing out their feelings to argue. Maybe I stirred your mind a bit.

  2. I got a theory about the folks running these polls. They said;
    “We’ll be carefully monitoring the IP traffic on this one, as well as the above two polls”.

    Why didn’t they just simply check the log from the previous poll and parse out the repeats?
    I bet it’s because they weren’t logging it; there are NO logs of the previous polls. If this is the case, then that would indicate just how professional they are, wouldn’t it?

  3. Stat————–Prev—–Now——Change
    Total Votes—-25001—26001——1000
    R.O.%———–55%—–56%——(+)1%
    Mabi %———-45%—–44%—–(-)1%
    R.O Votes—–13751—–14561——810
    Mabi Votes—-11250—–11440——-190
    Difference——(-)2500—–(-)3120—{[(-)620]}

    R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
    Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

    Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

    I’d say Botboy is still in bed. : )

    • well i think they actually dont care if RO bots, as long as RO wins they wont poll lock/reset or simplu disqualify. Fun thing is, in last poll mabi had 15000 something votes and RO had around 10000 votes. In this one RO is the one who has around 15000 votes but they wont call it cheating now. Mabi players decided to go legit while RO players decided to cheat to the max. Even if its just one botter the results have changed by a lot.

      • Are you suggesting Mabi isn’t botting? Because if you were, then you’d be blind. Mabi is botting just as hard as RO is. Or have you not logged in to mabi recently and seen players teaching others how to cheat the voting system?

        • mabinogi isnt because weve been told to stop botting. everyone including myself has been spreading the word about voting while adding how you can only have a small amount of votes per place.

          • Both sides are cheating I can guarantee that. In a contest to cheat however, the last poll shows that Mabinogi can curb stomp RO in a botting contest with their 40/60 result. However, it seems that Mabi has a bit more restraint with botting since they’re losing now while RO is going all out.

          • @LobsterFiend

            I dunno about Mabi being restrained now since 40% of 51k is a lot more than their 60% of 30k in the before reset poll, but you do make a lot of good points people tend to skip over. I mean seriously, 50k votes while the other games have barely 10k should raise a hell of a lot of red flags on both sides.

    • Mabi won the last Pole but the R.O players felt it was Unfair and and most Mabi players most likely
      dont realize the pole is reopened

      • I can assure you everyone on Mabi knows it was reset since the staff and various players have been sending announcements about it being reset.

        • I havent seen or heard anything about it being reopened i randomly saw it here when i went to check the votes and im on everyday and in every post you posted your against Mabi or justifying RO.

        • I also did not know, and found out when I went to check the results. The post on Mabinogi’s site only shows that the event is happening and makes no reference to the reset. Also because they are updating a post from when the event began, the post date does not show any indicators of a poll reset.

  4. Assuming there is a bot voting for R.O. (and maybe there isn’t, maybe it just worked out this way) but assuming there is, those folks who would otherwise vote for Mabinogi should still do so. If there is cheating going on by one side, and if they can detect it, they may simply remove all of that persons votes and take the totals then. If Mabinogi voters get discouraged and stop voting then the “honest” votes for R.O may carry the day.

    I would think that these polls create their own logs on their servers indicating vote, time, and I.P. address of voter. It would be a simple matter to have software parse the log to remove the dishonest votes. In fact they could’ve done it for the previous poll attempt.

    • If RO was the only one botting, you’d think they’d be disqualified unless Mabi was botting too, which guess what, they are.

  5. I don’t know if they call this a fair play but look at this, the moment they see mabi players cheating they close and reset the poll. In the new poll RO players cheat and they just turn a blind eye like nothing is happening. Seems like this site only wanted for RO to win this tourney D:

  6. Stat————–Prev—–Now——Change
    Total Votes—-23000—25001——2001
    R.O.%———–53%—–55%——(+)2%
    Mabi %———-47%—–45%—–(-)2%
    R.O Votes—–12190—–13751——1561
    Mabi Votes—-10810—–111250——-440
    Difference——(-)1380—–(-)2500—{[(-)1120]}

    R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
    Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

    Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

    If I were to bet on what’s going on I’d say this. Everyone is voting honestly except that there is one single person running a bot which is voting for R.O. They started the bot went to bed and have not yet got up.

  7. stupid people
    it just a game okay? every game has its own pros and cons
    btw hope RO will win but I don’t expect wining from cheating

  8. Stat————–Prev—–Now——Change
    Total Votes—-13000—23000——10000
    R.O.%———–38%—–53%——(+)15%
    Mabi %———-62%—–47%—–(-)15%
    R.O Votes—–4940—–12190——7250
    Mabi Votes—-8060—–10810——-2750
    Difference——3120—–(-)1380—{[(-)4500]}

    R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
    Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

    Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

    Well I think that says it all. What’s on trial now is the integrity of those folks conducting this poll. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt that perhaps they were at home and not monitoring this and that when they get into work they can see if any cheating was happening.

    It seems to me if “both” side were in fact cheating and not just one, then their numbers gained over the interval would be similar, Clearly they are not; they are completely one sided.

  9. People accusing RO of cheating don’t realise RO has over 10million players worldwide..and the reason that the votes were so slow in the other rounds is because we didnt’ care about it and didn’t spread it.

        • @RO ftw

          Same as been happening on Mabinogi too. No need to feel sorry. It’s the fault of the people bribing the players. “Fair” doesn’t exist here. It’s all about who wins no matter what.

          • i also plays mabi but all i see on party board is vote vote for 3x ap i see nobody doing cheat nor hacks i just see them spam for 3x ap i think we shud give it to them this one since we are cheating rlly bad its shameful to say

    • RO got no bot…*pick stone*….*throw stone*
      *manhole*..now lemme paint ur faces…*masquerade enervation* there..suit ya a lot
      go go go RO
      loved RO since my childhood

  10. It is obvious that there will be no end to this cheating accusation from both sides. I’m all for Mabinogi, but I personally think it’s best for both games to be disqualified and be done with it. No matter who “wins,” there will still be kids ranting nonstop. Both RO and Mabi had a second opportunity to prove they truly are a great community, but some people decided to screw it up.

  11. And there they are going at it again, RO sure does like to cheat, NOT A SINGLE time they went beyond 3K vote TOTAL during this poll AND ALL OF THE SUDDEN they can get 10K+ votes ? And then they pretend Mabinogi is the cheater… Unlike RO mabinogi EACH time went beyond 10K votes. Please be serious neither of the communities can seriously pretend that RO is looking legit right now, not while knowing how many votes they got during this whole poll and I did watch the amount of votes EVERY candidates were getting during each step, such a lack of fairness and honesty from RO, that’s utterly desappointing from a community supposed to be older.

    • Despite the fact that only iro voted before and europe only found out about this poll last thursday, same goes for pRO, jRO etc. who just got informed recently.

      You want to say it is completly unrealistic to get more votes when japan, phillipines, whole europe and some more countrys around the world started voting just now?

      I don’t say that noone is cheating, I rather think both sides are and should be DQed. But referring to your comment, you seem to be one of those Mabi players who want that bonus offered by the server admins. I can understand that you want that bonus stuff but don’t get blinded by such promises and look at the facts.

      • the fact is that a crappy game like RO which is like AQ world its like one of those ps1 game from centuries ago can face toe to toe with mabi and actually winning right now is juz plain hack and cheat. you know this deep in ur heart even if u bring the US army the air force or whatever the fk u are bringing to help you, buddy ur community is cheating sorry to say this. you know this deep down dont lie to urself.

      • The facts ? The facts I exposed yes, the ones proving that RO has an abnormal amount of votes compared to before and mabinogi on the other hand has the same amount. Which one look the most legitimate ? Don’t bother I know the answer. You guys are lucky that mabiKR and JP are not going at it. You guys are just tarnishing our names with your petty cheats.

        • Now by “tarnishing our names” do you mean the mabi botters who are currently teaching other players how to cheat the vote? I’m sensing a lot of biased from you. Both sides are cheating, get over it.

          • Yeah right now with the amount of votes for mabinogi it can’t be denied that there are cheaters among us too, althought we played it fair until RO started it … Like I said while we were having 12K voters like every other time in the poll RO had more vote in this poll than the combined total votes of all the poll it has been in until now …

          • Please do enlighten us with some evidence, cause im sick of both sides saying the same shit over and over again, u 4chan people out there

          • @Evidence

            If you saw the before reset poll, you’d notice Mabi was beating RO, despite people claiming RO was botting. Now if RO was botting, the only realistic way Mabi would beat it was to bot harder. Because let’s face it, RO’s population is so vastly larger than Mabinogi’s.

            Plus during this reset poll, RO has been reaching out to other areas for support, such as its foreign servers and some strange choices of websites. As far as I know, Mabinogi’s foreign servers haven’t even bothered getting involved. Now that’s not to say RO’s votes are all legit, but they’re not. But Mabi’s votes aren’t 100% legit either.

            Also think of the aftermath this match will cause. Both games are now known for botting, which will turn the remainder of this “competition” into a “who can bot harder” fight. The only way I can see this remaining as fair as possible, provided of course MMOBomb cares for fairness, is if both sides are DQ’d. It would send a message that if you bot, you lose.

  12. Hi, I play RO now for a long time and now, because of this vote I hear first time about Mabi. I googled and have a look at this game. In my opinion its a worse game…no chance in my life that I will play this…
    Ro is much better, so I animated my friends to vote for once and I have a lot of friends at RO Server…

    • Look at it this way. When you trash a game just by googling it, the mabi community does not want you around them anyway. Continue playing RO, ignorant one.

        • Ever saw a RO trailer? Yea not so good
          Ever saw a Mabi trailer? Yea not so good
          Ever played RO AND Mabi? Both pretty good games.

        • If you don’t want to listen to his opinion, be the change you want to see. Stop voicing your idiotic trashy opinions. You would have been fine just saying I prefer RO.

          • Well, at least I don’t see any personal insult in that first comment, just a personal opinion for and against a game.

            Answered by Mabi players with “ignorant one” “idiotic trashy opinions”.
            These kind of personal attacks are quite immature, I hope not everyone of the Mabi players is like that…

          • @Forsure

            ” I hope not everyone of the Mabi players is like that…”

            Depends on which server you look at. Though each server has its own immature group, some are more… vocal than others.

          • @Unyu

            Yeah…each server is it’s own community…been on most of them, but sticking on Alexina for now

            @Blaablubb

            Thanks for being civil about sharing your opinion, but before you make a decision based on a trailer play the game for a bit…trailers are rarely a good representation of the actual game.

            I’ve played a large portion of the games on this poll and the only one that I repeatedly return to is Mabinogi.

  13. Do you read the comments?

    In majority, we have
    -little kiddy rage posts against RO
    -posts that both sides are cheating
    -posts that want both to be DQed

    I don’t really care who win this and I’d also prefere them both to be DQed since both sides seem to be cheating and no matter which one will win >this< round, the other fraction will most likely start cheating against them in the next round which kills of the whole vote.
    Well actually, concerning playerbase LoL will win. I don't play it, I don't even like it (tried it some time but it's not my type of game). But it has right now the biggest community of all mentioned games here. So simply quit this whole poll of cheating fractions on every side since those who cheat will also find out how to spoof MAC adresses, make LOL the winner of the never happened polls, call it a day and never bring up an unsecure poll like this again.

  14. NAW RO BE CHEATING MANG THE HELL THEY CAN BE LIKE FUKING 49% IN LESS THEN 5HOURS CHEATER CHEATER VOTE FOR MABINOGIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAANIANASSS

  15. Considering there’s supposedly 5 votes per second, when do you think MMOBOMB is going to disqualify the biggest cheater :D?

    • personally I think a response will wait till they are at least AWAKE , I’m pretty ashamed that people actually resorted to this on mabi’s side all though there is still the mac and IP check to see if a large number of people really were so stupid as to cheat when ragnarok will kick itself out anyway or if some of the bot users had the bright idea to use easily detectable botting on mabi’s side to get us disqualified, but might have made the mistake to vote once at the start before botting for their own side.

      • Personally, I’m a mabinogi player. I do think mabinogi could fairly beat every game they’ve faced so far. If they cheated to win, that’s not something i know. But it makes me wonder how much cheating and how much tampering the RO community had to do in order to get this far in the competition.

        • I’m a mabi player too, and I’m jealous of you for not seeing the people cheating. They’re everywhere to point I want mabi to lose just shut everyone up in-game.

          • as far as I know only one server is trying to get people to cheat, the rest of the servers are actually trying to discourage it…they are spamming party ads to vote on the other hand >_>

  16. Congrats RO and Mabi, you have nearly reached the 25k vote restart point from last time, in just over 12hrs.

    What will you do once both sides get removed from the brackets?

  17. So what are the plans for next round? think we need the korean votes this time? I don’t think everyone is so petty but a portion of the real voters will probably vote for planet side 2 out of spite. How many votes will they amass roughly? 6k? 9k?

  18. please don’t make Mabi looks worse then it does whit how you act.. yes RO just jumped 2% in under 30 mins but oh well. But don’t come on here giving us a even worse name then what we have. RO is an amazing game Same with Mabi but at the moment you’re making our community look like Trash.. Thank you…

  19. Quit the accusation acts.
    More like we RO communities have noticed you guys tried to Disqualify us through voting for us with vote bots/macros/whatever it is. Whatever, when you did that, the votes would be void, we couldn’t care less.
    Crying out loud to convince the admins here that we are cheating won’t help it happen, MMOBOMB admins has enough brains to see what is going on.

    Be honest and remember at 19th March, you guys started using macros first.
    its recorded to be at 11 votes/minute.
    12 hours later, we took action because of your immaturity.
    3 hours later, you guys triples the macros into 33 votes/minute.
    The vote is void then as the reports has been sent to MMOBOMB.

    Rather that fighting cheaters with cheats, we decided to learn from our mistake unlike some immature communities.

    We posted so many threads on local communities, take this for an example.

    www.*****.co.id/thread/532858c1f7ca1796388b4652/voting-mmobomcom-ultimate-f2p-showdown/

    replace the stars with “kaskus”

    That’s a spot for Indonesian community, we rallied idRO & idPSRO players which is around 1.5m active users atm.

    We also visited Us, Ph ,and Jp threads to help us vote for this.

    We rallied our own flags through hard-work.
    Not through toxic acts.

      • not to mention that the so called rally thread has only 277 views since like thursday XD not exactly an example of extreme community effort. And guys Relax we win this, we don’t have to cheat. Thanks to the premium poll monitoring features active this time they got the area location and mac addresses too. Its a bit suspicious if they have 6000 votes from the same small 1 family house at the end of the world which have different ip’s but come all from the same machine. We just win by default, and even if MMobomb were to ignore the cheating, we could just drop a note at the korean and japanese forums and slap on an extra 60-120k votes a few hours before closure. There is no need to resort to name calling here.

        • You do know i follow alot of places about RO and play both Mabi and RO and iv seen you guys in RO reach out to 4chan for help.. hackforums and alot of other places and still are but yet youre president of everyone saying oh were not cheating but yet STILL are posting on hack sites for people to rally and vote for RO? Mabi is no better but at least THEY hide their shame where you don’t… Your acting Majestic but honestly almost 3# now in under a hour that my friend is a bit sketchy i PLAY RO.. and know how small of a community it is and play Mabi and know how big it is mabi has 15k views on the mmobomb stuff i can understand them having the almost 20k votes right now but coming from an exped RO player whos played since 09. RO isnt that big as its vetoing is getting.. Not to mention YOU JUMPED 2% IN UNDER 30 MINS…. thats about almost 2k votes in 30 mins… please… Mabi and RO should BOTH be kicked from this and DQed.. becuase they both are cheating.. and its know they still are…

    • With so many votes per second right when the poll started. We actually HAVE that many players. It may be hard for you to believe, but even one of our more empty servers have had full and nearly full channels lately. With the introduction of mabinogi to steam, Our community is just larger. Its preposterous for anyone to not see how hard ragnarok is botting. Not to mention all the people who play the private servers shouldn’t even be voting. You’re not playing the real game, and part of the quality of the real game is the cash shop and customer support offered by the actual company, Both of which PS players don’t deal with.
      Now at this point, Pirate101 players have probably joined in because theyre butthurt that they lost while cheating too. I’m not saying 100% mabinogi isn’t, but it’s extremely obvious somethings not right when overnight RO jumped from 34% to 58%. Especially considering how many votes they had in the first 2 rounds.

    • A few of YOUR players suggested to mass vote for Mabi on one computer/IP to get US disqualified.

      Mabinogi has a LARGE community. Can’t say the same for RO, which is probably losing players by the day.

      • @Jason

        Both games are using the “Bot for the other game to get them DQ’d” tactic. It’s pretty sad to sink so low just to win. Also as far as overall community, RO is larger and more well-known. Though it is hard to tell with the rampant bots in RO, RO does have a more known name than Mabinogi for the people who don’t play either game but wanted to vote regardless.

  20. enough attention with them two games, just flip a coin and end this foolish debate of opinions and invalid arguements

  21. To be honest RO went from 1:34am 38% 4:20am ~ 47% in such a short amount of time make me raise an eyebrow. I’m a mabinogi fan but my god WDF!!! Mabinogi was whooping RO ass and such a huge come back in such a short amount of time WDF 😐 please tell me I’m not the only one that’s seeing this bullshit. Btw its now RO 47% Mabinogi 53% .-……………………..

        • The fact that someones pointing out how to cheat and still get away with it now is proof enough that they could be using it. Just stop trying to justify your shitty MMO’s cancerous community’s actions.

          • Yeah maplestory is pretty shitty with it’s cancerous community actions.

            Anyway, by going with just those and ASSUMING they’re cheating then who really has the shitty cancerous community actions?

            I really wonder.

        • Oh no someone pointed out how to cheat in the first place, they can’t possibly use it to get away with cheating now!!! xDD

          you’re really stupid.

        • Dude just shut up, all the heck thats being raised is gonna get MMObomb to look into it. We’ll see who’s right and who’s wrong then.

  22. The only thing we can do is just point out RO is cheating on MMObombs forums and twitter and hope MMObomb actually pulls their heads out of their asses. I don’t even play Mabinogi but I kno cheating when i see it =/

          • You’re not helping your community very much. Just proving how immature a majority of you actually are. You have good people in your community I respect them but not you.

            I do in fact play maplestory well afk in towns all day if you count that as playing.

          • It is a shame that each community does have people who let the side down, but then again with the internet these days and all the new children we are bound to get rageous kiddies who want nothing more but to play up and be the center of attention.

            I mean seriously, you’re insulting someone over a contest, when what you should be doing is representing and trying to prove why your game is better, instead of wasting your efforts to make yourself look dumb by trying to insult a game you probably haven’t played in detail.

  23. You see the thing is if MMObomb really lets cheaters like LOTRO and Ragnarok get away with all this shit and even praises the “community effort”, whats the point of winning? Who WANTS to win such a dishonorable contest run by such a sketchy website?

  24. Ragnarok Online is cheating! They’ve even been talking about using dynamic IPs and Proxies to get in extra votes on their forums!

    • It does seem sort of…unusual that within a few hours the percentage for RO has been shooting up for the last few hours. I honestly think there is something going on here, but that’s just my opinion.

  25. Anyone who believes Ragnarok should rightfully win against Mabinogi needs to take some things into account. What does ragnarok have that differs from any other Aeria game, Perfect world entertainment game, etc, etc. It’s a click once to attack, spam skill game. Anyone who says its not is really over analyzing the game.
    Mabinogi has too unique of a gameplay to be overlooked by people who play the MMO clones that populate 90% of the internet now. I’m not saying this just as a fan of mabinogi, but as simple fact. You can’t faceroll or macro your way through mabi like most other games. I played RO, RO2, and several other games, and nothing sticks out between them. The life skills aren’t even unique. They’re baby fed to you from lvl1.

    • You definitely haven’t played up to the 2nd job of Ragnarok Online.

      Game-play changes a lot after 2nd job, you can no longer kill any mobs by just attack spamming everything.

      Fyi, to say that people are baby fed from lvl 1, I assume you are playing the “Renewal” server,
      on which basically translates to “No Challenge high PvP server”.

      This server is for players that has no time to spend, and wanted equipments and levels without any effort. The mobs are simpler, mob distribution are map based, and the quest are all cut down into simple hunting quests.

      Try out the “Classic” server, and you will be surprised what you can find in RO.

      Either way,
      There is no way you can kill a single mob with just simple attack spams above 2nd job.

      Each job is unique, but you didn’t know that did you?
      Proves you haven’t even played for more than a week.

      Yes, each job has 100% different experience, and as far as I know, there is no job that “Spams attack/skill” other than Thief & Assassin job, but even so, they still MUST utilize their escape abilities to prevent being killed as they are squishy yet closed ranged fighters.

      As for builds, every piece of equipment has its own advantage in RO,
      Not even the lowest Tier Jackets can be sold without thinking twice.

      you can even spend 99 intelligence and no strength on Swordmans, and still kill one of the strongest MVP (Boss monsters) (Amon-Ra) with the right choice of equipment. (No, you don’t even have to be a billionaire or highly leveled to do that, you just have to be smart.). Its all in the preparations he had. There is a video posted on that on youtube. Its all on calculations and strategy, you are kidding me to compare RO with “Perfect World” and etc.

      Can any of your game allows players to single-handedly kill MVPs with enough preparations?
      Usually MVP requires an entire party or a guild to fight, but with enough brain, you could SOLO anything. (There are over 3000 Mobs with unique card effects to engrave into your character’s equipments) (Choose the right combinations of equipment and cards, with brains, and experience of the boss’s behaviour, you can SOLO them ALL)

      There was a guy that create a blog to SOLO all MVPs of Ragnarok Online with a Knight, bosses which usually requires 5 – 15 peoples, he single-handedly kill them alone. (Ofcourse, with refined technique, switching equipments on specific skills, evading behaviors, etc.)

      Any other games? probably not.

      • I can kill your Amon Ra with a single arrow XD but to be fair my level goes in the 5 digits and my bow is a living spirit weapon which grows in power when I pay attention to her XD

      • Actually yes, there are several field-bosses in the game and dungeons and missions which have field-boss quality mobs at the end. Your character on mabinogi has literally no restrictions besides ONE or TWO skills that you can’t obtain on a specific race, but it’s made up for other skills as it is. You can build your character to solo anything because you’re allowed to utilize every combat style in the game. Need to fight Arc lich? np, throw down some barrier spikes and attack from behind. Need to fight the Giant Alligator? np, pull out some good knuckles and have at it. And you missed my point about the combat. Whats different between RO combat and WoW combat? You have no stun times besides skills that actually produce a stun affect. You don’t have to combo specifically. Hell, if you’re dishing enough dps, you can stand stationary and kill most mobs.

      • Mabinogi is unique BECAUSE it doesn’t restrict you to a “class”.

        Ragnarok is like most MMOs, where you’re stuck with one class.

  26. Stat————–Prev—–Now——Change
    Total Votes—-12000—12000——1000
    R.O.%———–37%—–38%——(+)1%
    Mabi %———-63%—–62%—–(-)1%
    R.O Votes—–4440—–4940——500
    Mabi Votes—-7560—–8060——-500
    Difference——3120—–3120—{[(+)0]}

    R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
    Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

    Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

    How ’bout that . . . no change!

  27. Yeah I found their instructions for this new poll to be unsatisfactory. I mean what if someone votes between 5-399 times? If they can’t make their software limit folks to one vote per person. Then they should throw out all pretense and say “Go ahead vote all you want – bots welcome” and be done with it. At least that would technically be fair.

    • As much as I hate the idea of people voting more than once per IP, I can see why they allowed that. Families living in the same home who some or all may play and want their own votes counted, people sharing a network at school or something, etc.

      Too bad there is just no way to make everyone happy. 🙁

      • Stat————–Prev—–Now——Change
        Total Votes—-11000—12000——1000
        R.O.%———–36%—–37%——(+)1%
        Mabi %———-64%—–63%—–(-)1%
        R.O Votes—–3960—–4440——480
        Mabi Votes—-7040—–7560——-520
        Difference——3080—–3120—{[(+)40]}

        R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
        Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

        Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

  28. this whole “which is best” poll is just plain stupid simply for the fact that anybody can vote as many times as they like… and disqualifying one game because it got multiple votes from one computer can push competitors to vote multiple times for the game they are against to disqualify the other… this whole “poll” is total bullshit…

  29. Stat————–Prev—–Now——Change
    Total Votes—-10001—11000——999
    R.O.%———–34%—–36%——(+)2%
    Mabi %———-66%—–64%—–(-)2%
    R.O Votes—–3400—–3960——560
    Mabi Votes—-6601—–7040——-439
    Difference——3200—–3080——(-)120

  30. Stat————–Prev—–Now——Change
    Total Votes—-9002—10001——999
    R.O.%———–31%—–34%——+3%
    Mabi %———-69%—–66%—–(-)3%
    R.O Votes—–2791—–3400——610
    Mabi Votes—-6211—–6601——-389
    Difference——3421—–3200——(-)220

    R.O. gained 220 votes on that interval

      • since when is 3am morning ?
        and yeah they are suddenly rapidly increasing by numbers breaching more then they got before,
        and if its true that if one side cheats then both are out then its kinda unfair seeing mabi was anihilating RO
        so yeah just like before they cant win so they start cheating (you can say what you want but just look at the player base and you can see mabi dominating)

  31. Something is fishy…. At 9:58pm votes were RO~30% and Mabi~70% 8804votes total

    now at 10:13pm its Ragnarok Online 32% Mabinogi 68% Total votes: 9285

    • That’s a 15min Time interval… so:
      RO: 30%~32%
      Mabi: 70% ~68%
      Total: 8804~9285
      ROvotes: 2641~2971 = 330 votes in 15 mins…
      Mabi votes: 6163~6314 = 151 votes in 15 mins

      RO has 2 votes per min and Mabi only has 1 vote per min…. this seems fun… and its moving faster it seems

  32. so derp…..

    is surprising that there are so many childish comment here on both games(Mabi – RO) and calling each other cheater…….

    seem almost like they’re bad apples of both sides >_>

    • It’s sad indeed. I enjoy both games and thought this would be a nice experience to see how each community would react, but it turns out all they are doing is throwing hate either-side of the fence instead of promoting relations or representing their game.

      However, this competition has been stigmatized by suspected cheating and I think a lot of people are letting that cloud their vision, when it should just be forgotten about. If there’s cheating that is impacting the vote significantly MMOBOMB will notice it and act accordingly, they don’t need bickering fools to half-guess for them (especially when they have no evidence behind their claim).

  33. Okay so here’s the next interval.
    Total Votes—-8001—9002
    R.O.%———–27%—–31%
    Mabi %———-73%—–69%
    R.O Votes—–2160—–2791
    Mabi Votes—-5841—–6211
    Difference——3680—–3421

    3421-3680=-260

    R.O. gained 260 Votes on that last interval of 1000 votes.

  34. Okay to illustrate what I was talking about I have some numbers for you ( I’ll try to make a table but it may look bad sorry ahead of time). I’ll describe the differences from Mabinogi’s view point.

    Total Votes—-7001—–8001
    R.O.%———–24%—–27%
    Mabi %———-76%—–73%
    R.O Votes—–1680—–2160
    Mabi Votes—-5321—–5841
    Difference——3641—–3680

    Mabinogi gained by 3680-3641=39 votes even though R.O. went from 24% to 27%.

  35. People in mabi are a pretty Wackly lot to be honest 😛 /watch?v=9A4ouCCtTPc and /watch?v=1e97bVRnLeE pretty much sums up a whole lot of the people that run around in mabi XD

  36. Although the percentage for R.O. is rising this does not necessarily mean they are gaining. Mathematically speaking, the lower the percentage is, the easier it is for it to gain (in percentage). What matters are raw votes. The percentages don`t say the whole story.

    If you want to see who is gaining then what you need to do is at some point you calculate the total votes cast for each candidate and then the difference between them. Wait a while and do it again. Finally calculate the difference between the two differences.

    If you favor a particular candidate start with their number first and subtract the others number. When all is said and done if the difference of differences is positive your candidate is gaining, if negative the other is gaining and zero the difference between the two sums of votes is remaining constant.

    • This is not quite correct. It is not true that it is easier for the percent to go up when it is small. It is true that it is easier for the percent to increase/decrease when the Total Number of Votes is smaller.

      The percentages, along with the total number of votes, do tell the whole story; and just compairing percentages is enough to determine the winner without any extra calculations.

  37. I hope the bot problem gets resolved. These are both great games and they do not need to rely on cheating to obtain large quantities of votes. Both have a pretty good fan base and quite a large number of “dedicated players” that will be willing to defend the name of their respective game.
    I personally prefer Mabinogi over RO, but that is only because I love their stylized art and the amazing Celtic story line. If you have not played either of these games because they are “free to play”, I suggest you try them. These games are both a ton of fun! If you are an honest fan trying to support your favorite game, I agree that cheating on either side is intolerable. Not just for the two games in question, but all the other games in this Ultimate F2P Showdown.

        • Only 1 hit if you have a good weapon and high ranked skill plus the strength, will, dex, or int to go with it… so its more of an achievement to the people with higher lvls… and u want a challenge? go fight the Black or White dragon…. Maybe Ifrit if you’re feeling so hot headed about yourself…

  38. As a long time fan of RO, I have so many feels for that game. But let’s be real. It’s 2014, and RO has fallen so much from what it was a decade ago. That, and very few kids even know what RO is now. So many other animu MMOs have come out that are flashy and have more conventional styles of play that have almost entirely wiped the internet’s memory of RO. So if Mabinogi isn’t winning by at least twice as many votes, I will be surprised.

  39. lol you RO and MABI peepz too srs about this crap poll actin like kids with uncurable chuunibyou disease. Uninstall them BS, go play a real game like WoW loserz.

  40. RO vs. Mabi…. I am finding both sides to be going childish and threatening each other so Im going to quit Mabi and go play Runescape again cause at least they did BS you all the time… might do Tera instead. Not sure but if this childishness keeps up both sides are going to lose a lot of credibility… so knock of the act and play it fair. Going to far now…

        • Hard to tell when people are joking when it’s just text without any knowledge of who the person is. Especially difficult when the internet is filled with people that are really THAT kind of stupid and mean things for real.

          Tera’s actually pretty good. Grindy with some questionable design choices, but the combat is great. Would be playing it more if not for law school being so damn time consuming. I JUST WANT TO HIT THINGS

          • Im waiting for it to download. wanted to try it. Also thought it would be known as a joke second I said Runescape… especially after EoC….

  41. I think people just need to calm down now. The polls have been reset, a poll reborn, a clean slate, a new sun has risen.

    Basically, stop all this hate and get on with the show. MMOBOMB have already said they’re tracking IPs and if anything suspicious crops up they will intervene, so stop this anti-(insert enemy game here) propaganda and instead show respect and root for your own game!

    note: If you are going to argue about player-counts and the such: bring cold hard proof so no one can disprove you, and then, only then, will you be taken seriously.

    ~ Happy voting and good luck guys 😀

  42. Ragnarok Online seems to be QQing… hard
    It got reset and it’s being carefully watched
    MABINOGI=WIN!!!!
    M-A-B-I-N-O-G-I

  43. sooo Mabinogi is 78 to Ragnarok Online 22 …… Yeah I only see Ragnarok doing even worst. You guys happy now? You gonna loose even more <3

      • You can’t be sure until the end. 133k likes on facebook for just international Ragnarok then you want to count in international Ragnarok 2 with at least 60k likes. Also, then you have communities of private servers in the hundreds of thousands as well as Kro, Jro, IdRo, and Ero.

        So don’t be surprised if they do somehow pass mabinogi in a day or two.

        • because people were rigging the votes out of good honest desire to provide their game with publicity?
          with the sarcasm recognized in the above statement, why would a private server of a game be persuaded to vote for ragnarok?

  44. we have 3000 votes already, thats way too much for any bot or macro to pull off this quickly, can we easily assume they cheated first? because I’m pretty sure that is the case. also I don’t know what Mabinogi players requested it, if everything was fair we would have won anyway.

    • Actually it was ragnorak that cheated first…. I was following the poles just out of my own curiosity and mabi had way more people behind it than u believe. its an NA/EU game with over 184k likes on FB. as “unknown” said. 3k isn’t even 1/10th of mabi’s players. We are all working atm to create awareness of the reset. Even Nexon is

      • I’m advertising it too, I’m just saying, the fact it was reset to begin with is bullshit, and the fact that they’re catching up is again, bullshit. They’re cheating again, so what happens when they figure out that both sides were again, cheating? Are they going to disqualify them both or go by the vote count the way it should have been to begin with?

  45. If 3000 voters is botting for you then you must play really low player data base games … 3000 is the total of votes and this number isn’t even 1/10 of mabinogi’s NA/EU player base.

  46. @MeepMeep

    You do know that Mabi has over 100k people on facebook and people ingame telling people to go vote right? …Right?

  47. I wonder who is in charge for security on MMOBOMB but simply monitoring IP won’t change a thing on that vote. Most kids can easily write a small tool nowadays using worldwide proxys to setup a voting bot. Reading out the MAC would be a bit more secure (you can still spoof the MAC adress but well).

    Guess most honest players won’t vote again anyways because some side will start botting again. I’d prefer to see both sides removed from the whole poll since it was quite obvious none of them played fair.

    And also it’s a funny move that many game publishers give bonuses. Most seem to vote only to get bonuses and not because of the game. So it say nothing about the community actually but only shows the grief (especially in the cheating on both sides).

    • I’m in 11th grade, and I’ve never met anyone who could create a bot; not in my grade, nor in my school. “Most” isn’t just an overexaggeration; it’s a lie.

      • It may be a bit more precise to say “enough kids can do so and share it for everyone on the internet”, ever heard of DDoS attacks? Same story ^^

        Well, maybe I’m just to much in contact with persons in this business ^^

    • rag jumped from 7% to 41% in under about 10 mins last time…. sorta y everyone was flipping out over it. at least now its not jumping randomly.

  48. I like how it takes Mabinogi having to beat both LOTR and Pirates101 using voting bots and getting to ragnarok online for MMObomb to pull their heads out of their asses.

    • 184k likes. Parties open on every channel and server and people using world shouts over it. hmmmm…… YEP! we so cheated… not like Nexon MADE BIG POSTS ON FB AND THE GAME SITE ITS SELF ABOUT THIS! >:l

      Mabinogi shared a link.
      8 minutes ago
      The MMOBomb.com poll has re-opened! Be sure to get your votes in now if you haven’t already!

  49. I think the reason Mabi votes spiked isn’t because of cheating but because Nexon announced what would happen if they won over RO. 3x AP. In Mabinogi, that’s a big thing. People would want that very very much.

    • Pretty much. For those who don’t know how AP works, it’s essentially the points you get to improve literally everything. Combat skills, crafting skills, magic, and even stat boosts from those skills. Each level gets you 1 AP, and combat skills generally take anywhere between 200 to 400 AP to max out. Considering how you’ll generally only be able to get around 100-130 AP in a three week period…

      3x AP is freaking huge.

      • If you rebirthed to level 1 atleast a week before the event and rebirth either with a free or paid rebirth during the event you can start over at level 1 twice, so even if you just (YES I SAID JUST 😀 ) 100 levels per rebirth thats still 600 ap which would be worth 1 and a half month of grinding. So yes 3 X ap = very huge.

        • That’s pretty much the plan if Mabi does win. XD Rebirth to 17 Friday night, go nuts Saturday, use a card to rebirth Sunday and go nuts again. Got a bunch of exploration statues sitting around from an older gachapon thing, so that’s another 120-180 AP from the exploration levels.

          Every time this game pisses me off to leave, it drags me back in eventually. Goddammit.

  50. Sad that there’s a lot of smaller games on this list that are gonna be ROFLstomped…..

    I will say though that Planetside 2 is the game you should vote to win. It gets updated literally every week, the player base is a rather friendly bunch, the game itself provides a 100% unique and it provides an absolutely amazing experience.

    That, and it’s the most likely to make it the longest. It has a TEN YEAR DEVELOPMENT PLAN, this means that over the next FRIGGIN DECADE, this game will only get better and better, while a lot of other games will just fade into obscurity.

    • Planetside 2 looks interesting and its good that you like and support it. Me myself I don’t like shooters that much with a few exceptions that aren’t mmos.

    • Very good point. I completely agree! But yeah there are different taste for games. Shooter isn’t what everyone loves the most.

      • I hear Planetside 2 is great and a worthwhile game to sink hours into, but unfortunately I have not been able to make an account due to an error or something, and thus I miss out.

        🙁

  51. How can anyone from any game community be accused of cheating? Because folks are voting more than once? At the bottom of THIS very article it says “Vote early, VOTE OFTEN, but vote”. That sounds like an endorsement to me. So this is just like American Idol where you can vote as often as you want. Where do they say you can’t?

    Or is it that just using bots is the issue? It’s okay as long as you vote often manually? I can’t see that either. If you can vote more than once as long as you do so manually, then the vote isn’t nessessarily reflecting public opinion in the democratic sense but is rather a measure of game fan loyality instead. Then use of bots would be the same; a measure of game fan loyalty.

    If this is meant as a pure democratic vote then make it clear and say so rather than suggest the opposite, and set it up so you can only vote once. Otherwise it’s just hypocracy.

    • I agree with this idea, if you say “vote often” then mean it, or clarify what you mean, if this bracket gets removed it will cancel out the validity of the poll. Cause it is to find the best f2p, not the best f2p with fans that wouldn’t do whatever they could to see the game win.

  52. Oh god~ It will be hard to decide which game to vote for between Planet Side 2 and Mabinogi I love them both!! Planet Side 2 is very thrilling and lively and Mabinogi is more passive and comforting but also gives more options than just combat. Decision decisions~

  53. Mabinogi NA has a combination of multiple countries smacked into one server(technically 4, but w/e its one branch). I will say that I know without a doubt that both sides were cheating. But to sit and accuse one side of cheating without sitting back and looking at one self is plain hypocrisy.

  54. The problem is RO is yelling Mabinogi is cheating, but from past numbers though while I do not recall the exact number and even from a post on here showing the top last two amounts Mabinogi is second in the highest votes just under SMITE while RO did not even make it in the top 4 or 5 list.

    Now with the poll being closed its not hard to see the numbers for the votes was totaly abnormal though, but going from how voting was going even on the redo and redone poll mabi would still win giving past numbers of both game votes in the last two polls.

    • Also so I am clear too its clear that both sides was cheating with the poll vote total number before it was shut down, my post was just stating the view from past polls on vote numbers.

    • I wouldn’t go by past numbers, a lot of people didn’t even know about the polls going on. Also, Ro asked other ro communities in other regions and private servers to vote as well as a few other sites. Ones where old players usually go to when they quit. Anyway they both had bad apples in the bunch. If I was MMOBomb I would have removed both from the competition for both playing dirty. Which could still be a outcome at this point.

  55. Well, for RO there is not only iRO, we from euro (european ro) do also participate in the vote and have a playerbase of over 20k players. If the word is also spread to other servers, let alone all the pservers in europe and USA and maybe even other official servers world wide or also inactive players I hardly doubt that Mabinogi has a chance to win.

    I know that Mabinogi also has some servers around the world but I doubt it reaches ROs fanbase all-time.

    But It’s quite funny that Mabinogi players were also considered cheating before this vote and nothing happened before. This shows tha if those RO players wouldn’t have started doing the same thing to, Mabinogi would have simply won like before. Sometimes you have to do the wrong thing to do the right thing ^^

      • Apparently, he doesn’t. RO maybe has an actual nostalgic value, but… Their fans are widespread around way too much to amount so some good polling from them. While Mabinogi is rumored to cheat since the beginning, RO probably is and nobody suspects it, because hey, RO players are apparently perfect.

        • Well, the funny part is:
          It’s quite obvious Mabinogi was cheating before. Noone ever said RO players to be perfect but it doesn’t make the cheating on both sides any better.
          As already stated by someone, the RO side started doing so some hours after Mabinogi. I don’t defend doing this on any side. But if someone starts something, he shouldn’t wonder about the other side doing the same, ever heard of the time after WW2 (World War 2, for those who only know games)? Cold War?
          Anyways, for the european Ragnarok server it’s not that important to win this anyways, we also got offered an update that will come sooner or later anyways.
          But I heard other server put some more pressure into this contest. So people don’t really vote for the game but cheat for the benefits.

          And btw. still the playerbase of Ragnarok Online servers combined is bigger than all Mabinogi servers combined. Same goes for the Fanbase which is definitely to consider differently than the playerbase.

          But to put it back to your level:

          Blah blah a certain game is better than an other because my personal opinion is the only one that counts! So turn off every other online game server and stfu!
          Welcome to the internetz! ~.~

          Have fun cheaters, hope that the server administrators will not offer any of the promised benefits for the huge effort of making their game the one with most cheaters on it 🙂

          • Here we go again, another person spewing random “facts” out here and still fails to provide any hard evidence

          • Good sir, do you have evidence Mabinogi was cheating before?

            I was watching the poll and it was roughly 4000 Mabinogi votes to 1000 RO votes before things got crazy, and that was about right since NA Mabi has EU players~ NA players so all time zones are covered, while TMK at the time only NA RO players were voting for RO. Therefore, these results seemed likely until the North-American populace woke up from their beauty sleep and saw the current results and sprung into action to combat one another.

            Also, Nexon is a massive corporation with huge funding and income, and they have several adverts/commercials etc to accomidate for their range of games (each successful with a lot of players) so that also would mean they have a huge player-base for Mabinogi.

            Ragnarok also has a huge player-base and fans, and it was inevitable that these two games would clash head-on at high votes.

  56. i have played RO for 5 min instant remove from my comp it might even gave my comp fractures and desease. I mean wdf is wrong with the graphic it fking hurts my eyes and the battle system is like POKEMON CRATER LOL. i never seen a shitter game then this other than dragonfable,adventure quest, and pokemon crater. I mean those RO GET A LIFE WTF the game is like from 1950s or sometshit it is so shiettttttttttt.

    MABI IS MOTHER OF ALL GAMES!

    • Smooth. However, you should give games longer than five minutes, maybe a week, to fully understand and go in-depth before you criticize, and also with that eye-sore of a post you have actually humiliated yourself and basically disrespected Mabinogi by feeling you need to insult the competition, so please grow up and remember every game here is represented by a lot of people, successful and fun.

    • I am Mabinogi fan but you are rude. >.<
      No need to be mean every game has their own thing, plus nothing wrong with Pokemon fight style you meany. Mabinogi fighting system isn't amazing either, even though I like it regardless. Both games have their own beauty lets just accept that and vote for the one that makes our hearts filled with joy~ ^-^

    • u were just playing with novice class for 5 min and already like that?
      bet ur so called mabi will not survive even monk class

  57. Not only was the vote announced by iRO, it was also announced by rAthena the same day. They have 18k members on their own, then there’s all the RO fan-sites and private communities; I wouldn’t be surprised if either side of the competition used cheat tactics, but in all honesty if you’re going to use a cheapass survey site with a simple “clear cookies and vote again” system, then what do you expect?

  58. Regardless of which game wins Planetside 2 is by far the best.

    Although if I were to guess a winner I would go with LOL since it has the largest player base.

  59. I went to sleep last night with Mabinogi winning 78/22. Then I wake up the next day to see it become 53/47. What gives Ragnarok D:

  60. RO is a good game and I’m playing it currently and been playing for 4 years max and has a great community though I’m pretty sure it is not as large compared to Mabinogi (never gave it a try) but despite that RO only gets by since majority of folk like to spend ridiculous amounts of cash in order to go toe on toe with the old players that have been playing and accumulating wealth over the years. And not to mention the other official servers like pRO and bRO “holy shit they make a killing on hypermarket mvp cards and regular raffles LOL”

  61. Honestly, RO is good for old players. but nowadays it’s awful to anyone new. mabinogi however is still fresh enough to keep people coming back.

    • I agree RO renewal sucks.

      They aren’t even newbie friendly, NPC services cost are so high that its almost impossible to play. (With twice the fee to warp)

      I prefer playing jRO if you haven’t tried. They are doing a great job combining Pre-renewal with Renewal together.

      You feel exactly just like Pre-renewal, with added contents of 3rd Jobs and New world.

      Otherwise, you can always play the classic server, I had real fun back there at classic 😛

  62. MMOBOMB announced that the polls are going to be remade tomorrow, therefore the current ones are void (I believe). Cheaters never prosper. Good luck tomorrow, and may the best one win!

    (hopefully without any hate and some decent, friendly comments!)

    • Yup, but yeah…. We all know who ever win is gonna just get labeled as cheaters, for ever and ever and ever and ever by sore losers on either side

  63. >player 1 cheats
    >player 2 cheats
    >both players are cheating, 2 is still winning
    player 1:”Hey, you’re cheating! Not fair!”
    Go away.

    • FYI I have been watching the vote count with my coded software.

      The increase in Player 2’s vote isn’t even natural as its increasing with constant graph.
      (yes, its CONSTANT, which is UN-natural at all means.)

      To be exact, Player 2 has been using cheats first at EXACTLY 21 hours ago.
      They stopped after an hour.

      That is far before player 1, at exactly 12 hours ago.

      Then player 2 starts cheating again at exactly 9 hours ago,
      with rate of 1k votes / hour (10 votes / mins)

      and 2 hours later (Noticing Player 1 has reached 40%), player 2 increased their votes rate at exactly 1k votes / 30 Mins (33.3 votes/mins)

      Which is cheating first to be exact?
      Got brains to comprehend?

      • Well, still doesnt prove anything since they “could” still be real votes for either player, besides it only speculations that you are providing, that is not hard evidence with no concrete source.

        Let just hope they beef up the security on the poles, with things like voting 1 per ip address, and like proxy safegaurds, along with word check when submitting votes, cancel out the bot possibilies, or at least mitigate their movements, cause obviously regardless of what anyone says, we all know that all players…. are idiots which would include me,

        and honestly, we all know who is gonna win in the final, IT AINT GONNA BE MABINOGI OR RAGNAROK ONLINE, since either side is gonna vote against them in the final

        SO LETS GO PS2 LETS GO!

        which is also a great game, if they only let me enter it on my laptop…. stupid system requirements

      • Yeah you’ve got it… We noticed they were using Macros and decided to fight back but really all we want is a fair fight. :/

  64. So much rage between these two games, dang son….

    Just reading the previous comments made me go like…. What kind of crazy game are these that make their player so…. STUPID!!! like oh gawd, its not even a popularity contest, its basically a contest showing who has the stronger community awareness

    Cheating on both sides? GG, tell us something that isnt from year 2000….

    This game is better than that game…. No one gives a crap about your opinion, shut up and vote….

    God I am glad i dont even play either game, like screw this rouge division has it rough with all these no life players who are bleeding….

  65. This is disgusting.

    I’ve been seeing that number tick up like clockwork, all for one game in particular that’s pulled away with a steady % per hour. Mabi 😛

    I was even in the process of downloading that game and giving it a try, but I really don’t want to support or encourage such blatant cheating. I can only imagine what the game must be like, and it couldn’t possibly be friendly with all this trash-talking I’m seeing.

    I wonder if they’ll script votes in the Rogue div finals.

    • Every vote Mabinogi has been in within this contest has had high vote counts, are you sure it’s just not that the players are more active in voting?

      If you are going to pass a game based on the fact /both/ parties are cheating, then you have no right to call anything disgusting, and also do you play RO?, If so you should stop since you find it disgusting.

      Therefore, you should be careful when commenting, as fair enough you are entitled to your opinion, but also make sure it doesn’t make you look like a fool, or tries to belittle the other game, as every game here is to a high standard with a strong player-base who love their game.

      • There’s proof of Mabinogi cheating. Screencaps of people actually saying that they don’t care for the poll and are just cheating to get the rewards the mabinogi admins are giving for winning the round, and more.

        • This is redundant since almost every single game on here has one single player who claims that they will cheat. Check the Pirates101 forums, or the Ragnarok forums. Mabinogi players took screen caps from their forums that shows that some people over there were gonna cheat as well. The fact of the matter is that it is extremely easy to cheat on this competition. If you don’t know how, then you’ve been living under a rock. However, the cheater do not even represent the majority most of the time.

        • who care we all know PS2 is gonna win in the end, if RO wins, mabinogi will vote for PS2, if mabinogi wins, RO will vote for PS2,


          So quit yer yapping since we got this in the bag already

      • Nice to see you attempt to rationalize it. Calculate votes per hour as of the last 5 odd hours and you’ll find the numbers are strangely uniform.

        Also, you sound like a Mabinogi player. Take your cheating elsewhere.

        • Seems pretty obvious both sides are cheating at this point, but it would seem either somehow Ragnarok has managed to rally ~10,000-12,000 players and far far more than their previous polls indicate. Or they’ve started botting.

          Now most of us are allured to the idea of golden rules/Hammurabi style behavior when we’re being wronged competitively. Whether politics or otherwise.

          Personal opinion is that unfortunately for all the legitimate voters out there I feel Ragnarok started vote botting, and Mabinogi is simply following suit at this point. Fact is if one side starts cheating the other side will start cheating equivalently to try to keep it “fair”.

          Regardless disappointed in both communities, and account registration should be required despite personally being against it.

          • True, account registration would be nice and all but would greatly limit votes from either community since it is a pain in the arse to make sometimes just to simply vote for both contest holders and voters.

            Better off with vote limited to ip address
            Proxy safegaurds
            Those picture questions when confirming vote
            Linking the vote to other accounts ie:FaceBook


            otherwise for all i care, just get rid of both games from the competition, all because a group of voters from both sides decided that cheating was the way to go.

        • Person plays mabinogi…. Labeled as a cheater! gg
          we all know runescape is the mother of all games so any other opinion is invalid!

    • That is very sad. 🙁 You should not let a few cheaters ruin your image of something.
      Mabinogi is the most unqiue game I’ve ever played. I even think it will be the last game i ever play.
      I’ve played RO from beta in 2002 till it went P2P for the first time in 2003 then I played Mabinogi from korea in 2006, closed beta in 2008 till now. I’ve played both gamed additively and I still believe Mabinogi to be the best of the two, while both are nice to play.

      The game is really friendly and you should give it a try if you change your mind.
      I’ve never seen a game with as much content. It’s very mind blowing.

  66. Well I’m ashamed that my community is cheating, but it comes down to this…

    If we were to make a fair poll where no one could vote more than once and set it up between Mabinogi and Ragnarok Online in which there was no intervention between any other community – it would be only your version of Ragnarok (RO2 and other localized versions of the original can stay out) and only us as Mabinogi NA (no overseas servers or supportive players from other games) then I’d say Ragnarok Online would still lose. We’ve rallied our community rather well, the supportive non-cheaters are enough to carry us swiftly to victory.

    • To be fair my friend, it seems both parties have been accused of cheating. Either-way, I can only see a fair few amount of people taking the time and effort to cheat, especially since 1 or 2 votes here are minute at best, and the rest being genuine.

      Just because one side is doing better doesn’t mean they’re cheating, or that your side isn’t cheating either. So please, pot kettle black, good luck, and enjoy the voting.

  67. Haven’t even heard of Mabinogi but it’s got my vote because it looks interesting not to mention RO (more like GAGnarok online) is so boring and horrible that it has to rely on private servers to get people interested.

  68. Goodness… the hype for Mabi on here is ridiculous! Haha. My opinion: LoL is going to beat Path of Exile in votes, but Path of Exile should win in my opinion as being a better game. That’s an opinion though. Then you have Planetside vs. Mabi… That is going to be a tough call. Winner of that will probably be a good competitor for the throne either way. Maplestory vs. Smite? Never heard of Smite. My assumption is that people will do whatever possible to stop Maplestory vs. Mabinogi for the throne. It could still happen. For Wizard I see Warframe taking it but not being a competitor for the top spot. It’s going to come down to LoL, Maplestory, or Planetside/Mabinogi for winner. My bias is with Mabinogi, but I don’t see why it needs to win besides that I think it should. The other 3 are great games in their own right… I still think PoE should beat LoL, but I’m not hopeful and it honestly has no chance against Maplestory or Planetside/Mabinogi where LoL could be a fierce competitor…

    • I like how you completely disregard Smite because you never heard of it, although it has crushed every opponent so far (and TF2 is a pretty decent opponent). I think this poll shows more about the communities, what communities love their game. League is immensely popular, but the community shows no love. Smite hasn’t made a single announcement about this poll, it’s all been fan driven from the reddit. I think if it wasn’t based on just how much of the community loves the game, LoL would have been able to win by leaps and bounds every single round, but because it is struggling to gain votes, I can see Smite as a likely winner. I don’t remember how I saw it, but I saw something that said that in the first 2 rounds Smite had the most votes over all (i think it was by a decent chunk too)

    • Considering they never managed to get more then 900 votes before? voting bots I wrote the poll site and they said there have been attempts at cheating in the poll but won’t reveal more since I don’t own the poll … yet they suggested to get premium features XD

    • It’s because, We (as a Ragnarok Online community) have mentioned it globally to the likes of our master server kRO aswell as jRO fRO since were all a community, we’re in it together.

  69. Planetside 2 all the way. It’s by far the most epic shooter out there. The scale has to be experienced to be believed and the game is getting improved literally every week. Soon out on PS4 as well.

  70. Too many mabinogi fanboy/fangirl on here. Mabinogi isn’t that interesting, once you finish the story, not much left to do except pay 2 win to get stronger. In the end I voted for RO, unlike Mabinogi, RO is a true MMO.

    • The hell you talking about?! There is no way to beat Mabinogi. End game doesn’t exist. If you believe there’s nothing after the main story, then I pity you.

      The story is only about 5% of what Mabinogi has to offer. There is no level cap. It’s not even about getting stronger!

      You’re forgetting that Mabinogi is also a social/casual game; players HANG OUT more often than they GRIND. One can make music, perform tasks for NPCs, or even collect clothing (the clothes themselves almost always offer the same stats so in no way is this for getting stronger). There’s a reason why Mabinogi has one of the best communities.

      By the way, I haven’t spent a single penny on Mabinogi… yet.

      • I just got 3 dogs and 4 cats from the doki doki event 😀 I love cats <3 that widdle scarf is sooo kyooote~ and things people do in mabinogi? first of its not "the main story" but "the main STORIES" plural, we got like 18 of em not counting the iria drama which is entering a second season after the first 10 chapters of season 1 finished (thanks for the armored pegasus reward nexon muahaha) And grinding? you grind more in ragnarok then in any other mmo because leveling is the only real way to advance in that game. Sure, its cute and you can chat, but that's about it, in mabinogi I can dress up and pit my fashion sense against any of the other players with the fashion contest, heck if you win for 1 week (ingame year) a statue of your char will be seen posing in the squares of the towns XD. Also mabinogi is the only game where technological advancement as well as new spells make sense. A world that advances 52 years per real year? it would be weirder if there wasn't any progress.

        And ragnarok which couldn't even get 900 votes in total in each last round magically increasing by 2 votes every 15 seconds, exactly the time you need to reset your internet connection in the middle of the night? yeaaah sounds legit 😛

        • In all honesty if any of you are reading this, you should vote for RO. RO is a much better game than Mabinogi. Mabinogi doesn’t get decent enough events or any good new permanent content. Once you play the game long enough and have master all skills, enchanted all your gear, max stats,reforges the game gets boring. Even if you don’t and reach total level 1000, the game becomes ridiculously easy. There is no difficulty what so ever, you can also just pay 2 win. The combat is slow paced and there’s quite a lot of glitches. The game also has lag issue. The server and channel crashes from time to time, don’t even mention when you lose your precious item from crashing. Even if you do sent a support ticket it would take weeks, months for support to even answer your tickets. And so what if the game is casual/social game, it won’t last long being only that. Only reason the game lasted this long is because of gachapon, reforges, and rebirth cards. Mabinogi has lots of problems with it, so do yourself a favor and vote for RO, don’t listen to those mabinogi’s fanboy.

          • The game gets ridiculously easy at level 1000? Clearly you’re doing something wrong. Sure, some of the Generation Quest lines get easy, but there are several that only get harder the higher your total and/or talent(s). And… how in the hell did you manage to master all of the skills in only 1000 levels? Seriously, I’ve been playing since 2008, I’m only just closing in one 5k and I have so many skills to train and master that it’s not even funny. Max stats? Unlikely, unless you’re total 10k+ I don’t even want to hear about Max Stats from you. In addition, of course the gameplay is slow, the point is NOT to get hit, unlike most other MMOs that allow you to endure hit after hit. The combat system is unique and your character is far from invincible, even the strongest players that do get over 10k can’t take too many hits in the harder Shadow Missions. And as for support, they haven’t been the greatest, I’ll agree with that, but they’ve been improving, living in Maplestory’s shadow has kept us with a lot less, but the staff such as our Community Manager has been putting in a lot more effort to get stuff back to people.

            To say it’s only lasted this long is a lie, the game has lasted a long time and will keep on going because of the content that keeps on coming. I won’t completely defend the pay2win side, because some of these pets are pretty overpowered, but you don’t need pets, gachapon, reforges or even rebirth cards to enjoy and progress in the game. You only need a rebirth card to rebirth every week, you get a freebie every time you age up to 20 (which typically takes 3 weeks from a rebirth after 12 PM PDT/PST on Saturday).

            And to back pedal a bit, you’re complaining about events when right now we’ve got one running called Doki Doki Island where people can go and get pet-less flight, new pets, fancy looking armor, and all other sorts of fun without paying a dime on the game. In the past we’ve even had events that provided free reforges and rare items. Come now, don’t try to brainwash people to RO just because you don’t understand anything other than hearsay about Mabi.

    • Please dont comment. You’re making yourself look stupid.
      You obviously didnt even finish the story OR play it for very long im guessing, since everyone who has put time into Mabinogi knows that there are multiple stories and not just one. I’ve played RO for about 2 weeks only and got bored of it. I didn’t even notice RO had a story; either it was non-existant or extremely lacking. Mabinogi has 18+ of these stories with more to come. Don’t talk if you don’t know your facts. Also you dont pay to get stronger, you play to get stronger.

      • *cough*
        G1-G11 http://i57.tinypic.com/264m9z6.jpg
        G12-G15 http://i58.tinypic.com/2z86m3d.jpg
        G15-G18 http://i61.tinypic.com/24ay7bm.jpg
        Quest Log http://i57.tinypic.com/hwwbgn.jpg

        I’m sorry if you felt offended in anyway, but it’s sort of true. That’s just merely your opinion like this is my opinion with some true fact. You should also stop ,because you’re making yourself look like an ignorant fanboy. Once you finish G1-G18 not much to do, except daily/raid. The difficulty of the game is laughable, with these talent bonus, skill training pot that gachapon pooping out, they even nerfed G1-G3 and G9-G12. Don’t even get me started about lore there’s a scooter pet and soon to be flying food truck pet. And actually you do pay to get stronger, because enchant and reforges and even gachapon, have you seen elemental reforges? Or those somewhat new pre R1 item BDK Bow, BDK Sword, Beams, Dowra and etc.You also can’t “play” to get stronger without free rebirthing per 3weeks or paid weekly rebirth.

        • 1) The pets have nothing to do with the lore lol please listen to yourself
          2) Difficulty increases with your talent level / total level and the dungeon you are doing. You prob haven’t gotten that far yet if you think the difficulty is laughable.
          3) Who says you need to pay for all that shit? I havent paid a dime for gachapon or reforges and I’ve been doing just fine.
          4) Rebirthing every 3 weeks isnt that bad. You just need to learn how to not blow all your ap in less than 3 weeks.

          I’ve played RO, to be honest, its boring and you grind more in that game than anything else. MMOs arent about grinding btw. MMO means massively multiplayer online so how is RO a “true MMO” and Mabi is not?

          P.S. I think you’re fanboying over RO a bit too much too btw. Also Mabi is a social game more than a KillShit&Level type of game like RO.

          • first of all you have to rebirth cause its a INTEGRAL MECHANIC to the game O-o and 3 weeks paid rebirths? yeah paid rebirths is faster but for how long? after the fifth hero got released even before saga season 2 the game enhancements added 7 day free rebirth <3 I can't wait for that, finally mabi strips off the last vestiges of the old generation 1 pay to win crap 😀

  71. Callback
    March 7, 2014 at 12:06 pm
    I can see Mabinogi potentially losing once it faces RO. RO has better music, older fanbase, amazing art, and has lived in private servers for long after the official servers went down. Plus, it will have renewed interest as people look forward to Tree of Savior online.

    Also, Mabinogi gets some default hate for being Nexon, and the pets/reforges create a very negative pay2win experience.

    As far as I can tell, the divisions are all locked.
    TF2
    LoL
    RO
    Warframe

    No telling what might happen after that tho.

    LOLLL THIS KIENT FUNNY SHIETZZZZZZZZ
    MABI LOSING LOL!

    • wizard101 & pirate101 best (pirate101 just new online) didn’t win (because had glitch as blame on kingsisle didn’t fix in pass (some people got banned for it 3.5. million got banned,suspended more then week, some Way Out Of Control) (now stupid hall monitor mute people for 10 years x. x

      BUT don’t give damn crop (Others Game) wizard101 & pirate101 didn’t win (wish those game win showdown (make them to shut down there game)

  72. Ragnarok Online All the way. RO is the mother of all MMORPGs.
    Being released in 2003(if im not mistaken) has a good player and fan base. RO will beat Mabinogi. And will go all the way !

    RO Woo Hoo !

    • >mother of all MMORPGs
      >released in 2003

      Not even close, whippersnapper. Also, Mabi is almost as old as RO, since it was released in KR in 2003 (with RO being released in KR the year prior). I’ve played both. I’ve loved both, but Mabi gets my vote hands down.

      • Mabinogi is one of the biggest game in korea, they go have conventions dedicated to it XD besides RO has RO2, you’ll be lucky if the RO fans haven’t quite RO and joined RO2 if they really are so dedicated, sadly for the RO2 fans, RO is a different game still. Mabinogi was not only released before RO, but the graphics are way better, RO was stuck on 2-dimensional. Yea so RO2 is 3-d and non -anime looking-I actually don’t visually like more realistic looking games- but mabi doesn’t have a class system, well it kinda does, but you don’t have to be dedicated to the class, just being in it gives u x2 exp towards your skills. Mabi also has been offering a lot of free stuff to the f2ps, such as new pets, and certain events give out pon for changing your charas looks,and the rebirth system allows you to start your charas lvl over so you can gather up more ap, but you still keep your skill ranks, which is what really matters anyways.

  73. I currently play Warframe, and I’m loving it. I haven’t been on Mabinogi for like 2 years. Between the two though, I’d say mabinogi is a better game. DevCat knows how to make a game original and good. It’s been 9 years since Mabinogi came out, and I literally haven’t seen another game like it.

    Sorry for the double post. I made the same paragraph in another reply if anyone saw it.

  74. Sorry! Ragnarok Online is the only real MMORPG here! No channels for chu MMO wannabes!!! Lets do this!
    MapleStory > STWOR sorry not enough fanboys Vader

    League of Legends > Tera Online , sorry not enough eyecandy Elins

    Ragnarok Online > Star Trek Online , RO doesn’t come with PWE greedy gamble fest.

    uhh Eden Eternal??? > Who the heck knows Ragnarok Online will own them all

    So

    Ragnarok Online vs League of Legends

    Two entirely different games. No winners or losers, League of Legends will win due to still being relevant.

  75. I love how Mabinogi’s players think that spamming alt accounts in the chat is gonna make them win.
    Mabinogi is horrible in my opinion I tried to play and it was just a nightmare.
    Go smite!
    Go Team Fortress 2!

    • Someone’s a sore loser haha… You have a way to prove they’re all alts? Half of the comments aren’t even spam, and many are worthwhile reviews and comments.

  76. I hope Mabinogi wins the rogue division, but I wonder how big Planet Side 2’s player base is….. And as for a thread way up above about what constitutes an MMO, if people simply read the definition of MOBA and MMO I think it is pretty straight forward, as well as the fact that Massively Multiplayer in and of itself would mean many, many players playing together all at once, not separated into small games with no relation- which would be Massive Multiplayer.
    GO MABI!

  77. Mabinogi all the way! I have stopped playing this game three or four times along with several others because of real life obligations, I just recently picked it up again and OH MY GOD I LOVE IT!

    Dude… they even put SHAKESPEARE in the game!

  78. Mabinogi is an awesome game. one of the best thing about it is that it doesn’t use a tank based battle system like other MMO games.

    for those curious a tank based battle system is where you attack an enemy(they don’t flinch from taking a sword to the face) and they attack you(you don’t flinch either) and you basically keep attacking each other till 1 of you dies. it’s like a race to get your enemy’s HP to zero first and you could practically just go afk and let the whole battle happen itself.

    Mabinogi uses a tactical battle system where you must observe your enemy’s actions and react to them to gain the upper hand. the battle does not happen automatically like with a tank based battle system. you have to stay active and aware of everything that’s happening during the battle. this gives you a chance to actually show your skills for what they are.

    another great thing about Mabinogi is character development. it is done in a variety of ways all at the same time(or almost all) and there is like no end to how far you can develop your character(s), no matter how much you develop you character(s) there is always room for improvement unlike many other MMO where your development stops once you’ve reached the level cap. in Mabinogi i am almost level 3000 and not only am i not even close to my fullest potential but even at this high level there are still enemies that are many, many times stronger than me yet despite that as long as i’m not rash, am smart enough and if possible have good friends at my side i can defeat these enemies that are way stronger than me.

    another appeal of Mabinogi is the very friendly community. no one has called me a noob in Mabinogi and i’ve never seen anyone call anyone else a noob. calling other players noobs is a problem i have seen in many other MMO.

    another appeal of Mabinogi is that it doesn’t have a class system. say you’re a skilled archer but you suddenly decide you want to use a sword, Many other MMO wouldn’t let you do that but in Mabinogi you can just put the bow/crossbow aside and equip a sword. you archery skills will remain as good as they are while you are perfecting your sword skills so if you decide to go back to archery you won’t have to restart your training.

    if culture and/or mythology is appealing to you then you’re in luck, Mabinogi draws from pre-christian Irish mythology. (and before you say Ragnarok Online is based on Norse mythology remember that game is based on a Korean comic based on Norse mythology so Ragnarok Online draws its mythology inspire theme from a secondary source where as Mabinogi draw it from a primary source)

    one final appeal to Mabinogi is that its theme of fantasy life is strongly present, say you don’t want to do battles, then you can be a cook, a blacksmith, a tailor and plenty of other things, you don’t want to go into dangerous dungeons and such to get the materials then have other players escort you or have them get it for you. you can reward them by making them swords, armors, food and other items of higher quality than what you’d find in an NPC shop. while you do this and other things your relationship with other players will get stronger and while you’re at it seek romance, Mabinogi has a marriage system and even a family system where married couples can adopt other players as their kids thus forming a family. this game took the life concept of fantasy life to a new level.

    • It’s quite funny, I love the battle system and so does everyone who plays mabi, but according to game sites and some users I have met, who played the game for a short bit but didn’t understand what they were doing, the battle system is also considered a disadvantage to the game. What’s so great about sitting in place and hitting a monster and occasionally hitting a skill in hopes you kill the opponent first. People prefer all these realist-looking games, but they don’t prefer realistic battle systems?!
      Also RO is apparently a manwa based mmo. Sounds kinda similar to elsword in all honesty, except elsword has a decent battle system as well, a lot more fun then sitting in place and stabbing someone over and over… I dun like that in elsword tho everything is so cash based to me, and that your stuck with a specific looking chara.

  79. Er, really, who even made this list? It just takes purely random mmos and put them together. Also with no references to genre or category. Rpg with shooters? How can you compare them? What does rogue or warrior division even mean? Because they have no connection. And it seems the mmo being compared are very randomized. There are other mmo that should be in this list, and some needs to be taken out.

  80. @LeagueKing
    people cheating there vote so, others so, be possible vote only higher so, can’t win

    100% bet MMOBomb showdown for best music on TV (Bet: The Naked Brothers Band) BEAT those Jonas Brothers & Big Time Rush & Justin Bieber

    free realms win more was in Showdown (Would Beat Legend of Angel) lol (don’t going happen) shutting down forever (Mostly Sick of Disney People winning Kids Choice Awards)

    only game don’t like Plant vs Zombies (But Lot of People Love It Allot) bet they would win they was nominees

    and they already made video game for Xbox One made: Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfar
    watch that video on ZackScottLive

    Thinking when Xbox 360 (Don’t Sell) No Opinion show pick next: Xbox one or PS4?

    bet XBOX ONE WIN MORE THEN PS4 (don’t need tv for it) xD

    DON’T THINK PEOPLE WOULD GIVE UP ON up XBOX 360 OR PS4 BECAUSE (Grand Theft Auto 5) & GRAND THEFT AUTO 5 ONLINE

  81. Wizard101 & Pirate101 best games better then others (people told me MABINOG cheating be unfair vote) Happy Wizard101 (There Spiral going chance forever!) Wizard getting new level so, spell coming more DANGEROUS ^0^

    which I love it 🙂

    • sad FREE REALMS not in MMOBomb (Free Realms won’t be there anymore) but oh well I hope (WORLD TOUR FISHING BE NEXT YEARS AND HAVEN’T see anyone putting in Money Quest & Chrono Tales?

    • Mabinogi > Wizard101

      Dont believe everything you’re told kid
      How and why would anybody be devoted enough to start cheating on a poll?

      • people threatening poll (cheat there poll) limit unfair people (people didn’t much for pirate101) only one win (have done any new update) only stupid wizard101 (Nobody care about wizard101 (even Khrysails World Starting) least ice wizard have chance win pvp (people threatening ice wizard immunity)

        least have shadow magic (Not easy destroy overpower wizard) like tank,spammer

        (mostly everybody on wizard101) waiting for Test Realms (for part 2 of 1 new world of shadow magic) kingsisle mostly well overdue (not winning event) major issus with wizard101 (over small bad glitch) got people banned already lost 3.5 million

        you know (those glitch want call: item pickup exploit)

        (SHUT UP Jason) your R-Tard because you act like one (because others one) that all you r-tard. (make better swear offense language then that)

        now want you are @Jason you are Hypocrites and other shits (puppet)

    • How do you even think Pirate 101 is the best game? It’s not very nice at all, and I’m surprised it advanced. Well, this is about who has loudest fans, not best gameplay.

    • Just because we do a good job informing the player base doesn’t mean you should label us as cheaters. Our official thread informing players as over 15k views, over 15k individual mabinogi players who knew about the mmo contest, do you really think we needed to sink to cheating?

  82. If Mabinogi’s combat or gameplay isn’t unqiue, please I really want to know if there’s anything actually like it.

    You know, combo oriented combat that’s kind of similar to a fighting game, in that you have to consider positioning but also what attacks are viable where they all basically stun the enemy. Not just targeting an enemy and pressing a button to use a skill, or just doing so in sequence while minding the fire on the floor, I mean actually considering damage types, which attacks will keep you from being retaliated against and whether or not its viable based on your position etc. Tera isn’t really like that, WoW or any of the standard MMOs aren’t like that, seriously what is?

    I think Mabinogi is a spectacular game because of its combat, not to mention the fact that its supposed to have something for everybody like life skills or music, tons of clothes and a really social community, but god damnit is the administration horrific. The engine is old, you get your occasional hacking outbreaks, and in some cases its pretty pay to win (Yes, I’m talking about reforges, you can get a lot more potential damage out of reforges as compared to a skill/stat hoarding build, and is also just an RNG gamble)

    but the reason Im asking is because I love the combat more than any other MMO I have ever played. Its completely unique, as far as I can tell, which makes me feel like its completely under-rated, unless theres another game out there with similar combat or concept, in that case: i want to play it

    reposted because i need other things to play but im picky as hell

    • Yeah, there’s a game that has combat like that. Well, actually it’s more like a whole series of games. OK, so to be more specific, that basically describes the ENTIRE FANTASY RPG GENRE.

  83. MABINOGI is just full of cheaters I mean have you look at the forums they are telling ways you can multiple vote at least pirate101 is going down being fair.

  84. The amount of retarded people raging over this orz, just reading through this is too funny, not fair? not a legit matchup? informing companies is wrong? #killyourself…. IIm sure people is gonna rip on any comment being positive for this but meh, I could care less, people… and eat my horrible spelling and grammer =D

    Popularity contest of obviously a random selection of mmo with a decent amount of players

    Informed companies so they can let the players know instead of limiting it to the mmobomb community only, plus wider coverage of the contest

    Not created to suit you freaken needs of specific titles

    The line up is not in any particular order or of age of existance

    Losers bracket? what is this? 1 bracket of specific genre games? no reason to have it since its basically showing who has a more active community or a community that cares

    people hating on cash shop prices? you make me sick…. sure free to play should be balanced but I havent even seen games that litterally breaks the game by selling shit to their players to keep the game alive…. it cost money to maintain games and server people, understand that… ill understand if its like 1 shot kill weapons in fps games but in mmos, who gives a shit, their money, their advantedge, apparently people who rage about cash items are people who don’t spend money at all to help the game they obviosuly like. IE: Mabinogi reforges imbalanced? Cash shop only? people sell them on a daily basis for a reasonable price…. 200-300k, which is easy as hell to make, even with only a low lvl character. AK eidoloians limited to cash shop? ITS freaken tradable people…… buy it from players….



    Some people just look for trouble over the dumbest things….



    Awaits the rage of people….



    Oh… and…..

  85. let’s hope next time they only do the games that truly are Free To Play …. not Free To TRY AT A HANDICAPPED LEVEL UNTIL YOU COUGH UP THE SUBSCRIPTION MONEY

    Mabinogi all the way…..total freedom to develop characters, ability to choose genders, races, skills….no classes to choose from which is AWESOME….be a warrior with high levels of magic that’s not too shabby with a bow ….now that’s character creation

    take a break from battling to do crafting, farming, fishing, or just hanging out……sometimes when i can’t sleep i kick on Mabi….take of my characters (you get 3 of em for FREE) to sit under a tree away from everything to listen to the birds chirp overlooking Maiz Prairie then just drift off to sleep

    your first character (usually human) is totally free….as you play you come across two different races from which you get an assist character from each ….totally free…and can play as any one of them you choose….you can even play as one of your pets if you want in order to train them up so they can better help in battle IF you need them….and now we can transform into different creatures ourselves to take on their skills while transformed….totally awesome game

    • you don’t really transform into other creatures and take on their skills, the transformation mastery allows you to use your basic melee skills while posing as let’s say a bear XD its mostly for fun since you can transform into almost everything. Choosing gender and race aren’t really features, things like that are standard. What is mentionable is that when you rebirth, which you can do endlessly you can actually not only change appearance but also gender.There is even a journal achievement for that ^^’. The maximum level is… none, anything under 300 is considered newbie and gets bonus beginner support like free potions and skill reset + daily rebirth. my main character has a total level over 4k base and 2k exploration + 2-3 k Ability points from daily quests and events. I know some people with a total level over 20k who are LITERALLY master of almost every skill in game XD. And the recent updates in korea abolished the 7 day premium rebirth and made it a free feature, so in a few months instead of rebirthing for free every time you hit age 20 you can do it every 7 days in NA too 😀

    • Um no they didn’t? If you actually took the time to read when the polls begin for each bracket you’d notice the next bracket doesn’t start until tomorrow… They took the weekend off, which makes sense given its the weekend and people deserve time off from things. Plus it would have probably made it difficult on them to change out the polls and post info.

      • “F 3/7: Cleric Division, Round 2” Cleric was supposed to start on Friday. And they don’t need to take the weekend off, they aren’t doing any work. They just have to look at the votes at the end of the voting time and set up the new votes. That’s it. mmobomb failed at their job this time. :/

        • No I see what happened,

          We had a new post which was covering the next round of voting. The new post has the updated polls, but the original here didn’t get updated. So a lot of people are still going back to this one to check even though the new one is the one which is on the home page.

      • I like how my incorrect observation was initially corrected by an even worse rebuttal. Thanks spunkify, imma go look for the new poll.

  86. Im loving this competition but its sad that Vindictus already lost
    I can see Nexon games going far such as Maple and Mabi
    But LoL and TF2 can win this

  87. Warrior division: SMITE
    Cleric division: League of Legends
    Rogue division: PlanetSide 2
    Wizard division: Warframe <333

    • Um.. no… Mabinogi is going to win rogue division and maple in warrior so please. move aside with your SMITE and Planteside2.. please :T

    • I’ve never even heard of any of those games besides LoL until this poll. ~
      But anyways, Mabinogi is going to take that Rogue Division spot for sure.
      May be an older game, but it’s updated constantly and very often with brand new ADDED content. That age gives it an advantage of just having so much under it’s belt. Other games only have eye candy going on for them.

  88. I’ll vote for Warframe if you vote for Mabinogi. huehuehuehue. Seriously though, I think they’re both very original games. ♥♪♥♪

  89. The best game i have played is wizard101 i love that game i hope wizard101 wins they say vote but where in the world do you vote when you can’t find where to vote 🙁

  90. seriously? mabinogi vs pirate 101? mabinogi wins hands down pirate 101 is not even f2p but just a demo in mabi they solved the inventory isue by giving everyone free inventory plus service PERMANENTLY and they solved the mounts issue by giving lots of eventswich give mounts and give a free permanent horse and fly mount to all beginners while pirate 101 just lets you play 1 part of the story and thats it

  91. Warframe is obviously the best game you can play for free! Guns, aweseom enemies, and aweseom characters. What game could be better?

  92. Um… Have you guys noticed, in the wizard section, wizard101? That’s the best. It has the most players I’ve ever seen in an mmo. Over 3 frickin million people play it! That had better win.

  93. Warframe gained 1000+ votes in roughly the last 10 minutes after Vindictus was holding a lead on it up until then. Something doesn’t seem right.

    • Unless you forget the fact that there is the moon clans category un warframe with more than 800 clan members (without counting the alliances) and the gms was announcing the vote at the region chat(unos as the red test) so warframe not just had won aganist vindictus but also won aganist the whole nexon community which was supporting vindictus soo this polo was seems more than legit to me even if both sides was using botts of proxies.

      • I was watching for the hour before it ended, both sides were steadily gaining votes every few seconds. In the last 10 minutes warframe shot up 3-4 votes every second.

        • That was when the ingame redtext appears un warframe to boost the moral and the moon clans as warbros, asuro, pone rangers AMD other clans( which has in some cases +800 clan members) joined together to mame votes un the poll checo the warframe forums and ser it for yourself.

          the warframe community isnt that small as you think plus warframe son aganist the nexon community (vindictus players and other nexon Games players who support them)

    • it’s just because players rarely going into forum that big clans didn’t know about this poll…
      “then everything’s changed when the fire red colored text appears in game”

  94. the lord of the rings online is the bestt mmo from 2007.all the player who have already play this game 50+ lvls cant compare and say what i mean.the only mmo with dx11 full engines and more.stop to play manga games!

    • @kromachine: You’ve obviously never played Mabi. No class restrictions, for one thing.

      I don’t know much about LotRO, but I’d probably drop LotRO before leaving the tutorial area.

      • “You should try my game; it’s awesome and the best. I haven’t played yours, but I know it sucks.”

        Don’t you love that logic? XD

        • Don’t you love how LotRO can do nothing better but bad mouth bc the game sux so bad. I’m sry but its been well known that any game made after a movie just plan reeks.

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  96. Best graphs, best storyline, amazing player community, dungeons, dragons, and music!!!!!!! Mabinogi is the best MMO I have played and that is the truth

    • To all of you that voted Mabinogi may the goddess shine done upon our path to win this competion and let every other Game know we are the champions

      • We, the warriors of Mabinogi, are following our beloved Goddess in war against the other games. With Morrighan’s blessing, we can’t lose. Plus, with Nao support, we can just come back each time we die.

  97. is there even a question to who is the best?
    its obviously mabinogi
    but this is really just a popularity contest, and the sheer amount of people playing games like games like dota means we might not win.

  98. No games that have been shut down, but you use Statesman from City of Heroes on the banner.
    Nice, guys.

    RIP Paragon Studios.

  99. Mabi is the best! It was the only one that I played and still playing for so long~~ Aura is cool too, but mabi definitly is the best >w< GOGO!!

  100. Mabinogi of course. I have tried some others, never what I wanted. But Mabi never lets me leave. it deserves to win- FOR ERINNN!!!!!

  101. Halo must be an MMO, too. It’s like saying Bomberman Online is an MMO. It isn’t, it has it’s moments of outdated fun, but it isn’t. Anything online is not necessarily an MMO. Many online games can’t really be considered an MMO because they’re not entirely M, M, or O. They can have MO, but that wouldn’t make it MMO. “Massive” or “Massively”, that varies, as well, doesn’t it? 100 can be a lot for little games, even in Phantasy Star Online’s private servers, back in the days, 250 on average, that’s a lot..

    MMO does not limit itself to genre, hence it’s use. Some people use MMOG, G being game. If you really want to be definitive, it doesn’t mean that whatever is MMO has to be a game.

    MMOs are usually labeled without a genre because that’s simply what they wind up as.
    What person is this game in? Third? Thus, you add a T. MMOTP. Now what kind of game is this, a racing, or a shooter? MMOTPS.

    Nothing is really an MMO, because everything is an MMO. Otherwise everyone would say, “What OGs are you playing?”

  102. The best mmorpg is vindictus right now.
    It would be tera but tera has one problem that is way too big to ignore.

  103. Mabinogi in it to win it up in cloud-9 with 2k votes, while the rest are down suckin my big toe with no more than 500 votes. #Getrhaped.

  104. Honestly, I tried alot of F2P games, but most of those games I just drop. Mabinogi on the other hand always made me want to come back. Yes, people complain about the graphics, but imo I think Mabinogi is really a one of a kind game that mixes combat, social, and life skills. Best thing I like? No level cap or level requirements for equipments~!

    • Conngrats. I cann nnot say that the SMITE communnity isnn’t active and fairly dynnamic. This is gonnna be ann innterrestinng two weeks…

  105. At least Two-Thirds of these games are pay-to-win. That should automatically disqualify them from winning a “Free to Play” showdown.

  106. What a tease. I see Statesman in the picture and got pumped to support City of Heroes, even though NCSoft are idiots. Then, no CoH to be found. I hate you guys.

  107. Heroes and Generals,pretty good game instead of adding this one steam adds only high price aplha version games.And HG is for free low budged games,sometimes server maintanence make me crazy,but im playing this one about 1 year.

  108. Phantasy Star Online 2 I am playing right now (ENglish patch). Best game I have played in a long time. Makes all your other F2P titles look like poo covered in dihareah

    • I have played PSO 2, it was enjoyable unfortunately I can’t stay with a game with classes for too long, I get bored and either make 50 charas on one account, like on Warcraft, or I make another 50 accounts. I the only games where I didn’t have such an issue was runescape before they did the huge update overhaul, bk in like 2004-ish, and mabinogi, which I still play since 2007

  109. Waw…nice genre comparison mmofps vs. mmorpg /moba v.s rpg . To bad this site didn’t put card game vs. fps XD Rubbish comparison tho..

  110. As for the overall question of “Why are you matching up an MMO against an FPS?” — this isn’t about picking the best FPS or MMO, but the best F2P game overall. I, and I’d bet many of you, have played both FPSes and MMOs (and MOBAs). If, say, TF2 and DDO, face off in the second round, I’d decide which I like more because I’ve played both. I doubt many people here are limited to just one type of game, no more than you’re limited to one type of movie, or book, or TV show. I can say I prefer Star Trek to Law & Order, and nobody’s going to say “One of those is sci-fi and the other is a legal drama, you can’t compare those!”

    Besides, even if we did do the first-round matchups in a way to only match MMO vs. MMO, FPS vs. FPS, etc., they would get all messed up in later rounds, like in the TF2/DDO example above. Finally, people will rarely agree on the category a game belongs in (like the Hawken debate), so why bother?

    • You really can’t do that! They are all different. So one day i’ll play STO & the next ill play Warframe & the next ill play Smite. All of the genres are different so you can’t just pick one best I like all 3 genres but I can’t say witch game I like the best because they are all different in all respects. That’s like asking someone who love’s Prime Steaks to choose between a Rib Eye, N.Y.Strip, or a Flank Steak. If they were all marinated the same way & all cooked to MR. They all would be awesome in their own right separately!

  111. anyone else notice that within a short period of time the Smite vs AK matchup has 10x the votes of ANY OTHER MATCHUP… maybe these should have been the number 1 and 2 seeds instead of pitted against each other in round 1. just sayin

    • Why didn’t mmohut do open polls as a qualifier? Have players pick amongst all 16 games, take the Top 8, and make brackets based on that. That way all of the games would be made aware when the time comes for elimination and there wouldn’t be issues like the Aura Kingdom vs SMITE poll.

        • Giving everyone “a fair chance” at what? Having luck play a significant role in one’s placement for any competition isn’t right. I also recall that a lot of competitions that do use random seeds also have a Loser’s Bracket.

          I don’t wanna sound too cliché, but if they used random seeds in sports, a player’s placement wouldn’t be the most accurate representation of his/her ability. That’s why for sports like track, they hold preliminaries for seed placement or use race times from recent competitions.

          I’m assuming that Aura Kingdom was given such a low seed because of how new the game is (I think Open Beta ended about a month or 2 ago). If you read the post about this competition on the SMITE reddit, a representative from mmobomb states that all games were notified of the competition at the same time.

          (dang this post is getting long) If anyone is also wondering about the previous surge in votes for Aura Kingdom, it was a short while after a post about the competition appeared on AK’s news feed.

          SMITE vs LoL…now that’ll be interesting. (I like how some SMITE fans argue that Aura Kindgom doesn’t have a fan base just because the devs offer a conditional exp incentive for voting.)

  112. You’re just putting up games against eachother without even having the games know it? aura kingdom somehow figured this out and now they are bribing their players with 50% exp boosts while smite still havent said it to anyone and probably wasnt told either terrible showdown.

    • What? already? damn aeria -_- i bet those asshole keep tabs on every single mmo site out there, probably is how they still thrive.

    • I don’t see how an exp boost can be considered that much of a bribe. Voting is like, what? 2 clicks? You don’t really need that much of an incentive to do something so simple. Besides, if I really wanted exp, I’d just play more.

        • “I may or may not respond if you respond to this post” <— I guess that'd be considered bribing too. Heck, ya can call a lot of things bribing, doesn't mean they're worth mentioning.

          Gee willikers! an exp boost!? Imma go drop everything I'm doing an play non-stop for 2 days.

    • We have been tweeting the match ups so both devs can have a chance at telling their fans. The match ups are just a popularity contest. That is why the genre’s don’t matter. It will slowly funnel down to the most popular games against each other.

      • It’s still a very stupidly made spunk… you match extremely popular games with barely known ones and genre should matter as well.. this stunt is one giant “WTF”, imo.

        • We could have made the total number of games smaller — down to 32 games — but then that would have left off a number of reasonably popular games. The first 50 or so were pretty easy to come up with, relatively commonly known games that people are familiar with, but the last dozen or so, I’ll admit, are a bit of a stretch. Still, we had to put something there.

          If you don’t like the first-round matchups, come back for later rounds, when the more popular games should be all that’s left.

          • That is a bunch of crap & you know it! How much did MMOBOMB get paid to pick the shitty games on the list or are all of you just smoking spice? THIS LIST SUCKS ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            No warframe or STO on the list. Also genre should match up with genre you dumb asses.

    • We actually are informing the companies about it. If they choose to not take advantage of it, like Aeria is, that’s their issue 🙂

      • I like Aura Kingdom an all, but these polls seem to be foreboding something unpleasant. I honestly think that when all is said and done that the only real winner here will be mmobomb.

  113. Seriously, they doing sh!tty job at match ups… matching tf2, a widely known and popular game, with something.. i don’t even know wtf is this game.. i never even heard of it? are you f@ckin’ for real mmo bomb? wtf are you doing lol use ur brains a little will ya? x_x

    One of the worst match ups ever… nuff said.

    • That’s usually how big tournaments (like the NCAA tournament like this is based on) work. 1 vs. 16 matches are, admittedly, always going to be blowouts.

      • This really shouldn’t be compared to NCAA. They do a much better job at seeding and they give everyone ample time to become aware of their tournaments.

    • You don’t know how all tourneys are run. Since this is a seeded tournament, they made a bracket exactly how one should be made.

  114. Bad timing, just when aura kingdom with its aeria-incited hype had launched…
    Now all the AK fanboys are gonna vote for that piece of crap -_-”

    Anyways, in the list theres only 2 titles that worth my time, tf2 and dungeons and dragons, rest is either junk or not my thing.

    And whats up with the match-ups? you match dotas and rpgs? and rpgs with shooters? what point, if any, is there in doing that? at least divide the stuff by cathegory and genres.

          • It is not, Hawken is just multiplayer, not massively multiplayer.
            It is you who doesn’t understand the definition.

          • MMO simply refers to “Massively Multiplayer Online Game”. HAWKEN fulfills this condition as it isn’t separated into many servers hosted by individual players, but on one mega server for each area.

          • Hawken is a MMO. A MMO is Massive Multiplayer Online. even MOBA’s are MMO because the game is Massive and it’s Multiplayer and it’s online.

          • Hawken is NOT an mmo. An MMO requires hundreds of simultaneous players in a session. Compare Hawken to Planetside and you’ll notice a major difference.

          • MMO is a very vague term. You are redefining it to suit your needs by forcing it to include a persistent world. A definition that requires the game to have a persistent world would be less vague, and, as a result, more useful. For that reason, I understand why you would wish to argue that HAWKEN is not an MMO. HAWKEN, however, fully meets the conditions to be an MMO. It is Massive, it is Multiplayer, and it is Online. That is why I am arguing that it is an MMO.

            Now then, let us create a new, better term, MMOGPW. This would expand to “Massively Multiplayer Online Game with a Persistent World”.

          • “An MMO requires hundreds of simultaneous players in a session.”
            I am not redefining MMO to require persistant worlds, I am using its intended definition. It’s not massive AND multiplayer but massively multiplayer. That means a large amount of players playing at once (usually in a persistant world), not a large amount of players separated between 6v6 matches in multiple games/lobbies.

          • Sir, your logic does not work. In HAWKEN, there are a great many players at once. Each group of players is simply within a separate instance. Many MMOs that would fit your definition have instances. The difference here is that under your definition, those instances would be required to be connected via a persistent world, while in HAWKEN, they are connected via a single global lobby.

          • “Each group of players is simply within a separate instance.”

            That’s why Hawken is just a multiplayer game and not an MMO. You can NEVER see up to hundreds of players within a single match.

          • yea an mmo can not have a max number of people. if it is diablo, dota2, hawen they all fall short of massive,because they put restrictions on the number of people that can log in

          • If TF2 is an mmo, so is Hawken. TF2 splits players up into separate sessions yet can only have up to a maximum of 32 players in each server.

          • The first M in MMO is for Massively not Massive. It’s not the world that needs to be massive, but the number of players in that world.

          • *sigh*…

            As I said before, you guys are simply modifying it to suit your needs. “Massively Multiplayer Online”. Now, tell me this: Where the hell does it mention that the players all have to be in the same instance? It doesn’t. Hell, it doesn’t even mention that they have to be in the same server. It pretty much refers to ANY online multiplayer game that has a large amount of players. Even TF2 fills that role. Yes, it is retarded, but in the purest sense of the term, that is what it means.

          • “It pretty much refers to ANY online multiplayer game that has a large amount of players.”
            There’s no point to the term MMO if that’s your definition.

          • It’s not MY definition; It is the literal meaning of the acronym. Despite it’s vagueness, however, the term still manages to be useful by letting other terms take priority over it. For example, if someone were to ask me what genre TF2 is, I would reply “FPS”. This does not mean that it is not an MMO, but simply means that the FPS part of it is more profound. In the same way, we have terms such as MMOFPS, which denote that it is not any more FPS than it is MMO, or vice versa.

            I’m starting to really dislike the term MMO now though. I think we need a non-acronym with a definite definition that is more precise than what we currently have.

          • All you’ve made are claims with nothing to back them. I had the literal meaning of the word supporting my argument, and even provided an explanation as to how the word remains useful under such a literal definition. You have yet to refute them.

            Trying to turn those into an insult isn’t getting you anywhere. I should think it’s quite clear which of us it is that needs help.

          • Exitium, you’re wrong. This is a sad debate. I’ve never met anyone who thought you could apply the term MMO to a multiplayer game that limits the amount of players to a small number in each session.

          • Please enlighten me, sir. How am I wrong? I’ve seen no fault with the logic I’ve used, and no one else has yet to point any out. If a fault is found, I will gladly either retract my original statement, or revise my argument.

          • Exitium stop argue with them. it seems they are incapable of understand the meaning of the word.
            you are 100% right and wrote down your arguments.
            they only thing they do is defining their own meaning of the word and claim it to be the right one.
            as soon as you play a game online with at least 1 other person its an mmo.
            if you play a singleplayergame its not an mmo.
            deal with it

          • Hawken is an MMOFPS?

            Which is still an MMO?

            Same thing with Gunz.

            I think asdf is confusing MMO = Open World.

            I think that’s the problem.

          • No, you’re confusing MMO with any regular multiplayer game that supports a small number of players in a single game environment.

            An MMO supports hundreds if not thousands, hence the ‘massively multiplayer’. think 100v100 not 5v5

          • any game based on some server that handles thousands of connections at once and provides multiplayer gameplay is an MMO

          • Since no on bothered to look it up, here’s the definition according to Google’s dictionary.

            “A massively multiplayer online game. A computer game in which a large number of players can simultaneously interact in a persistent world or can potentially play against a large number of players in matchmaking”

            It would appear that everyone who has posted so far is correct aside from Zer0 who posted: “as soon as you play a game online with at least 1 other person its an mmo.” according to this definition that is not the case.

            Now will everyone stop whining?

            Randomosityness

          • So if a game has a million players but a match supports only 16, it’s not considered an MMO in your opinion, but if another game has a million players but it supports more people than that, it’s considered an MMO? So Elsword is not an MMO and Warframe as well as Dragons Nest is not an MMO due to it supporting only 4 players per a game right?

          • Well holy crap then Thompson.

            I guess we better tell them all that they’re not MMOs and have them remove the label “MMO” from their games.

          • from wiki,

            A massively multiplayer online game (also called MMO and MMOG) is a multiplayer video game which is capable of supporting large numbers of players simultaneously. By necessity, they are played on the Internet.[1] Many games have at least one persistent world, however others just have large numbers of players competing at once in one form or another without any lasting effect to the world at all. These games can be found for most network-capable platforms, including the personal computer, video game console, or smartphones and other mobile devices.

          • so many comments but of my skim I saw one massive mistake by someone stating mmo = massive, multiplayer, online. the missing final two letters in the first word are essential, its massively not massive. massively multiplayer. ie, a massive multiplayer session is required for it to meet the definition “massively multiplayer” – there is no comma between the two so a massive game that has multiplayer is NOT an mmo. thompson is right – hawken, tf2 etc are not MMOS. they are great games with multiplayer. but they are not massively multiplayer because to be massively multiplayer you require a multiplayer session with /hundreds of players/ – otherwise ANY multiplayer game that was popular and had a huge player base would be an mmo!

          • Ho~oh Wow! This is one long debate in a comment section XD
            If Hawken and such isn’t an MMO then why are they listed in MMO genre in many sites?????
            Well the term is already sticken with vague glory, you can argue with logic as much as you want but general society is already riding the vague train anyway and hence labelled it regardless of any-ones logic.
            Its no use arguing anymore 😛

          • “If Hawken and such isn’t an MMO then why are they listed in MMO genre in many sites?????”

            I believe that is the core of this debate.

            Personally I’d have to agree that Hawken, TF2 and other such games do not qualify as an MMO under the basis that MMO is self-defined as a Massively Multiplayer Online game. I also take into consideration that a Lobby or Hub acting as little more than a junction between instances does not in any way count as part of actual game play. Further more I feel that such games that limit game play to a certain number of players per instance falls short of being called an MMO due to the fact that the only defining differences between such a game and an offline game is the physical location of the players in the instance and the medium through which they communicate.

            All that being said an MMO is just that, a game that is played online by a massive amount of players. If we take the definition as just that it gets confusion and so we add our own ideas to the end of the definition deluding the spirit of the acronym. One could say that any game played online by any number of players in excess of “X” is an MMO while another would say that the majority of players must play in the same world. I think that many people may be able to agree with me when I say that personally I would define an MMO as any game that is played via the internet in which a massive amount of players share the same world in a relatively seamless experience.

            It’s important to note that the point that I’m attempting to make here isn’t meant to discredit any game(s), nor is it intending to imply that Hawken, TF2 or any other game(s) lack in any way, shape or form. More so I’m hoping it will get people thinking about how and why we classify things the way we do. In the end, what purpose does it really serve? Do we enjoy a game, its community or any other portion of it less or more just, because someone does or doesn’t label it with some otherwise pointless label?

            A rose by any other name…

          • League of Legends is an MMO, but it’s only groups of 10 or six playing on a single map at one time. Therefore Hawken is an MMO aswell

          • ask the admin of MMOBomb to remove hawken if its not an MMO.

            for all I know and mostly here know… all the games listed here are MMO’s+

            Exitium dont argue on narrow mindeds 🙂
            theire interpretation of MMO is for open wold map games only… and that;s STUPIDITY

          • Lol, everyone quick.. look up the first time the term “MMO” was ever used, and it’s history. RESEARCH NIGS. END OF DISCUSSION.

          • Well “Massive” sounds more pleasing to my ears but the definition for MMO(Massively Multiplayer Online) is a multiplayer video game which is capable of supporting large numbers of players simultaneously. They usually have at least one persistent world, however some games differ(world-wise only).

          • Planetside 2 is MASSIVE, im sad it didnt make it, it doesnt have enough players yet to fill their 6000+ people servers