F2P Cast: Betas Aren't What They Used To Be (Ep 40)
On this week's show our panel discusses The Secret World's announcement that F2P may be in their future and then gets all nostalgic on they way betas were. Weekly bombs are dropped, Damina's Da-Bomb seems a bit self serving, and viewer comments round out the hour. Enjoy!
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It's even worse when games go into beta but never make v1.0 until a year(Or more) after it's launch. Blacklight:Retribution has been out a while and is barely APPROACHING 1.0.(0.980 I believe was what I've seen last) A game is not fully launched until it reaches 1.0 AT LEAST in my opinion.
A-bombs to "Founder's packages" and any "buy for beta" deals. It started with Devs paying gamers to test their games, then it's free, NOW we have to pay? Screw that noise!
Second A-bomb goes to Zombie for allowing Blacklight: Retribution to launch unfinished and for not making 1.0 MONTHS after it's launch.
Finally, Da-bomb to you guys at MMOBomb for being on top of the F2P news. You guys deliver on your work all the time and with quality!
Ps: Need replays in the future of Damina playing the different upcoming horror games. ;)
Question of the week:
For the one year anniversary, have Brimm and Havok duke it out in the ring, dressed up in sumo suits and ofcourse shoutcasted by Magicman and Spunkify. >.<
A-bomb: Its a big title so maby abit of flaming coming my way (equip flameproof jockstrap)
League of legends.. I love the game, the company, the competetive scene around and the champions but: Well over 100 champions but still only 1 map used for 5v5.. come now Riot, atleast a few other skins for the original map and a rotation for it would really help.
May the loot be with you!
company: ha ha these fools! we should be paying them too test out our crappy games and give bug reports on them. But they paying us too test out our games AND give feed back. that's a win win.
people; omg omg omg i got into the beta. wtf this game has so many bugs.
me: yes people its a f$@king beta. might as well pay for a pay to play. and then again the free to play item shop is always pay to win. if i get into this shit now this will be long so ama stop.
A BOMB For beta's and trying to make money of us honestly i noticed this trend seemed to start with firefall (ie founders pack) now everyone will copy this.
Da bomb for I....urrr i guess nothing oh wait brimms reaction to 8 bit anything
I say for the anniversary a special live 3 hour show. I proberly wont be able to catch it cause im uk but w/e that'd be awesome to see.
Gamer market changed to "support unskilled and brainless people". When i first time played games they were a challange, required some player skill/reflexes, gave lot of fun and satisfaction in competing something in it. Now games are made in a way that even playing with your foot toe you will still win with ease. People like that lower the pressure on developer at making really good game (ex. diablo3 fail) since they have no idea what gaming is supposed to be.
so what has happened to Beta-Tests? It sure is one thing how companies use, treat and call their tests and another thing what gamers do with it. Don't underestimate the hordes of Bored Gamers who are constanly looking for something new to spend their time on. They have allready tried out everything that exists up to date and then try to get into Betas just for the sake of having something new. Companies became aware of that and that lead to this date's Betas with a minimum of feedback turning into actual changes, because they don't expect any kind of input from the Bored Gamer.
The RaiderZ-pack with the Neverwinter-access however adresses this topic too well. It's like "We know you won't be playing our game for long, here have the next one to try out". It's unethical imo. Has the world seen a car-salesman who offers you keys for cars in development state if you buy a brand new one?
A-Bomb to RaiderZ for not officially confirming the leaked Assassin and Archer arctypes.
Q. of the week: I suggest taking the mmobomb community to storm a f2p mmo and have us create new characters while recording. Hundrets of new chars in the starter zones, hilarity ensured!
May your connections be stable!
This week I would like to launch an entire nuclear assault of A BOMBS to Funcom not only for disappointing me every time, but for trying to rip me 14.99 Euros a month (roughly 19.18 U.S. dollars) for the Secret Word... and also for Age of Conan before that... Why do I complain? Because I live in Latin America, hell even my country is part or North America, why would I have to pay more for being outside the U.S. and Canada even though I will be using the same servers?... Hell I've been paying 15 dollars a month for every subscription based MMO I played since Everquest. The saddest part is that for The Secret World, EA and Origin backed them up, I even bought the "BOX" in local currency at a fair price. I really wanted to like both games, but not ever their billing department got it right.
Awesome show as always guys!!
P.D. I really missed the derp of the week :).
P.D.D. I'm not related to "Awesome Enchilada" at ALL!!
have you guy heard when star wars the old republic will be free to play and soul and blades will be sub when it moves til they see the way people react
Question of the week !
Another live stream with All of the host's.. I know thats CrAzY, But hey 1st year will never happen again.
Let the body's hit the floor.... Rawr :D
But honestly my friend,I will be saying this on your 10th year
( 2022 - Brim is the Host and some how you became his side kick .... wtf ! )
.. Sure has been a wild ride getting all my gaming info from all of you.
Lets get to it, Raiderz I have the same feeling you guys had, I like it but I just don't know why I don't wanna play it anymore.
As for black prophecy I just think that game tried to recreate my favorite game: Freelancer Discovery mod(Check it up on youtube.), except they missed all the good part. For example, A Universe with atleast 30 systems and 50+ factions each are joinable by killing who they don't like or just buy your way to them, you can trade and mine with different system to gain different amount of profit, flying hundreds types of ships from light fighters to freighters to mining ships to battle cruisers, discover alien universes and wreckage, your level is determined by how much your character's is worth in total. without all those parts the game really was just really ****.
Check out their site here: http://discoveryfl.com/
But in the end with all those goodies, EA still shoved a grenade up the original developer's "you get my point" and cancelled them from making the second one.
As for The secret world, it all looked good until I saw the combat, then my fire for the game was put out. So I guess I don't need to further express that.
As for the betas in the current state, I feel the same way except for firefall. But I been in so many betas they are all the same thing, I really just don't even wanna do anymore betas, since they'll just make me not wanna play the game when it actually comes out. And with all those play to beta test stuff going on, I think I'll just stay in the shadows for now *evil laugh*.
Therefore, I really hope game developers would put duct tape on their eyelids, to look more into the flaws and problems of a game first, other than money in our pockets first. Wouldn't you agree?
With paying for betas....I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand, I agree that the term "Beta" has lost its original meaning in terms of testing and that it should be free for the purpose of finding bugs. On the other hand, I would say that if you're going to charge for betas (given the shift in its meaning), you should definitely offer free beta giveaways alongside the payment option. (eg. Dota 2)
For episode 52, perhaps go over the top 5 best f2p games of 2012, top 5 greatest f2p disappointments of the year, talk about the the 1 game which has had the most attention since f2p cast's inception...
Perhaps for the top 5 best and greatest disappointments, in the few episodes prior, try and get all the f2p cast guests to cast their votes prior and announce them on episode 52. Oh and maybe do a viewer vote as well.
Enjoyed it, looking forward to the weeks ahead :)
I wish i could go on your casting show and just strait up school you on MMO games. I have been playing MMO games since 1997 i have seen things that would make your head spin, so ya if your up for the challenge come at me.
1. Episode 52 will become an episode where u do some of the best funniest moments of free 2 play cast :D so u know stuff that made the community laugh (for me personally when brim was right about SWTOR)
2. Or u could do a live free 2 play cast (hopefully at a better time for europeans :P not like last time where i had to stay up till 3 am just to watch :P ) and then have like maybe some give aways or something i know u guys dont have a tun of money and stuff to give away but i mean anything u guys can offer u know :P :D also have some questions like if u answer write u get some mmobomb gold or something
3. Maybe get a few of the more active mmobomb members join u in the free 2 play cast maybe? not greatest idea but still would be funny :D
idk if they are good ideas or even creative ideas but its still a good way to celebrate maybe
Question of the Week:
One year is a great accomplishment. Do it up! I call for a free2play cast awards show. You could give awards such as Best free2play cast rage! Best member bomb! Best guest host. etc...
It'd be great to have a show highlighting the best of the year. This way everyone could be involved. All you wonderful hosts, guests, members, and so on, give credit where credit is due!
The way you phrased the whole 'Pay to Beta' system definitely makes it seem like a ridiculous model !
Also, I missed the RaiderZ CBT by one day ! >.< So will be eagerly awaiting October 24th !
Another great F2P cast guys ! Thanks a lot :)