Every free-to-play game has them. You know who they are. You might even be one of them.

Warning, incoming satire

You’re a free player, who refuses to pay for your game. Less charitable names for your ilk are “freeloader” or “moocher.” How dare you take all the hard work the game developers go to to present this game, the millions of dollars, the sweat and tears of thousands of hours’ of labor, and refuse to pay even a dime in support? Who led you to think that sort of thing was appropriate?

To quote a classic ’80s anti-drug PSA: “You, all right? I learned it by watching you!”

(As an aside, could the dad in that bit be any more of an a-hole? You’re asking your kid questions and don’t let him get more than a syllable out before asking him another. “Where did you get it?” “Dad –” “Answer me!” But I suppose the notion that he’s a generally bad parent is central to the concept.)

First of all, if you are one of the free players, you’re not alone. In fact, you’re in the vast majority. While numbers are typically hard to come by, there was an interesting comment made by SOE chief John Smedley on Reddit about a year ago, where he stated that he’d done research on about 50 current F2P titles and that player monetization rates were between eight and 18 percent. Wargaming.net’s Victor Kislyi has also been upfront about World of Tanks’ conversion percentage, usually stating it to be in the vicinity of 20-30%, depending on region.

Why do so many players refuse to pay? Some of them, yes, are definitely cheapskates. Or moochers. Or people who feel entitled to a free game, for one reason or another.

But I think another reason is the message that games put out, the one they shout as loudly as they can during the initial marketing push, especially if the game is being converted from a subscription model. It’s right there in the moniker: FREE-to-play. Our game is FREE! It’s FREE! Sign up for FREE! FREEFREEFREEFREE! It’s all FREE!

Is it any wonder that players think that the game is… I don’t know, free? I mean, where would they get such a crazy notion? Who gives them these ideas?

The video at the top of this article is a perfect example. CEO of Lord of the Rings Online Inc. (a division of SarumanTech, I’m sure) Gandalf the Grey declaring to a rambunctious crowd, “You shall not pay!” Of course, once you’re in the game, you’re reminded at nearly every turn that the Turbine Store is only a click away – funny how Mr. the Grey doesn’t mention that in his brief address.

Most of us have no problem plunking down $60 for a new PC or console game from time to time, and for the longest time, the only way to play many online games was to do that and then pay another $10-$15/month for a subscription.

A majority of F2P games, at least initially, are tremendous bargains compared to their P2P counterparts. If you start in a typical MMO and want to get a character to max level with solid gear, how long does that take you? For a regular but not obsessive player, maybe two or three months?

In three months of a new game P2P subscription game, you’d be expected to pay around $100 total. Even if you need to buy a few XP boosters or the like, you’re unlikely to spend that much in three months of playing any F2P game.

But you’ll likely bristle at the notion of having to spend anything early on. And why’s that? No, it’s not because you’re a cheapskate (well, not all of you), but because the game lured you in with its incessant promises of “free,” and once you were in, you felt like you deserve that free experience. It’s like a used car salesman getting you onto his lot with the promise of a great deal and then pulling a bait-and-switch. At least the phone sex lines tell you the first minute is free and then, in the small print, say it’s $3.99 for each minute thereafter. Not that I know from experience, mind you.

Sure, there are some entitled moocher types out there, who just grab what they can from a game and will whine incessantly about not getting everything for free, all the time. But maybe game companies could do a little more balanced job of promoting their products instead of trying so hard to shove “free” down gamers’ throats, getting tons of sign-ups, and then acting shocked when people get angry that they don’t receive what was promised.

After all, which do gamers really pay more attention to: press releases like “One million players tried out game since it went free-to-play!” a month after a game switches or the white-hot rage posts and comments strewn around the Internet for years afterward?

Jason Winter is a veteran gaming journalist, he brings a wide range of experience to MMOBomb, including two years with Beckett Media where he served as the editor of the leading gaming magazine Massive Online Gamer. He has also written professionally for several gaming websites.


  1. I don’t mind subscription games or games where you buy to play but games where they push micro currency or costume shops on you push it for me because instead of trying to expand the playerbase and get more players they are only focusing on the money.

  2. The problem they face is mostly that they have a set number of players and they want to push the % of profit up instead of enlarging the player base (mostly because maintenance), so odd things start to happen to the game midway. Instead, new games should look up ways to go around that issue straight off the bat (warframe for example does it but still those connections are heavy with issues). I believe future F2P games need to take this heavily into consideration because that margin of profit is really hard to push up and instead you need to enlarge the popularity of your game thus enhancing your profit margin and the amount you get at the end. The bigger the player base the better it is for a random player (paying or not) to just come in and check on his game (given he has stuff to do in-game) and thus he himself dispite being a “freeloader” or not is helping inside the game (queues, parties and raids become an issue once the player base starts trickling down and this also affects “whales”). There are ALOT of things a player might contribute to the game’s “health” besides paying a monthly fee. One example is, if the player has extra time instead of a working an 8h shift to pay for your game (being him at school, under age, rich or poor) he can, and mostly surely will, engage in forum activities by posting feedback and ideas on the things he like and does not like (most companies see this as a “free to develop” mode nowadays and they dont actually pay for that service anymore, now who’s the “moocher”?). In the end the “health” of the game you’re doing is always the main concern (that profit margin) now if you’re achieving this with 10 players great, just dont expect to do 20 men raids with that!

  3. The free loaders are primarily to be blamed on developers themselves. You see certain companies having massive success selling little more than cosmetics and a few convenience items- Nexon has made massive amounts of money almost entirely off of cosmetics and the way I see it is that there are a few things that appeal to me that likely appeal to most other gamers as well. I don’t mind spending money on a cash shop at all but there are certain criteria that need to be met before I will do it. First, the cosmetic items should be highly stylized to stand out from other games i’ve played. Second they’d have to be limited time items with no chance of being resold since the whole point is for my character to stand out in a crowd. Third, and most importantly if the game sells over powered items in the cash shop I won’t spend a dime on it. I will play a pay to win game if it is good enough but will never spend money on one since I am opposed to cheating in any game and selling power to players rates up there with using a trainer to get powerful equipment or boost your stats in a game like dark souls in my opinion so I won’t support a company that encourages that sort of thing out of greed. As for freeloaders they will be there no matter what but the things i mentioned would make a lot of companies more money if they do it right. The whole appeal of free to play games is so players who can’t pay a monthly fee can get online and play a game with their friends even if the friends can afford the fee. So if developers invested as much money in hiring good artists as they waste trying to promote pay to win cash grab titles and stuck with a single mmo to put their efforts into instead of slinging a hundred of them at the wall and washing them away if they don’t immediately see success on the scale of games like wow they’d get a lot further.
    These companies throw out one game after another thinking it’s going to be possible to have the success that blizzard had with world of warcraft over night and shut them down left and right wasting company assets instead of using sense. Blizzard did several things right and planned a ton more than people seem to think. First they took years developing the game to fine tune it. They didn’t focus everything into making it realistic and instead focused on artistic flair to meet lower end system requirements. They plugged people into short term betas while constantly generating hype leading up to the open beta. They baited time to wait for a time when no other major mmos were scheduled to launch. They also assessed their competition at the time by waiting for beta testing access for press to have opinions let out to determine weather they needed to wait to release the game(At the time the biggest competition, at least in hype were Everquest II and Star Wars Galaxies and we all know how those were at launch). So it wasn’t just random success even though it did coincide with a large upsurge in the popularity of online gaming but for the most part they planned things out and didn’t force the game out too soon. Recently we’ve seen similar success with league of legends and dota2 is pretty competitive with that now. So it is possible to have that level of success with free to play titles if the developer listens to what players want and plan things out instead of just slinging shit at a wall and hoping something will stick.
    The companies not seeing success only have themselves to blame for sinking their efforts into the wrong places and not appealing to what drives gamers, weather it’s to be better than your friend or to just look unique in a group most gamers want to stand out when they play a game online so games either need to adapt challenging gameplay or have good artists if they can’t cover both and being over the top funny or charming can go a long way too. Again, I want to ragdoll myself off a skyscraper into a crowd of fifty gamers. And I want to be wearing a metal sombraro with animated mini chainsaws dangling from the brim when i do it.

  4. In most game forums I visited, the community tends to always bash, flame, and troll “Free Players” when Free Players are discussing “balance issues”

    Where as the Cashers always say “what can’t spend a few dollar to support the game?”

    Quite sad these days that 70~90% of any game dislike Free Players when Free Players are the ones that’s actually supporting the games.

    Think of it, what happens if all Free Players leave?
    How many cashers would be left to play the game? 100 ppls? LOL

  5. Yes because most of these free to play companies totally don’t get their content from another company over seas. They totally don’t just translate it then push it out, doing very little work of their own.

  6. I personally wont pay for a game unless I play it for a while. You wont know if a game is good or not until you play for countless hours waging its pros and cons, ant then u got the end game content that your trying to see if its gonna be worth that $15 a month or yet see how grindy the game is. If the game is good then ill pay. I spent over $400 dollars on league of legends and had a blast but see you don’t know this until you play it. personally, I don’t want to pay $15 a month for a freaking game I bought for $60 dollars just to play it online. Now, if more games came out with the purchase then play for free model then i’d be looking at buying them. The reason why console games sell more is bc of this model. once you buy a game you shouldn’t have to pay for online, that’s how I feel

  7. Wow just wow.I read the article and then read the comments.And first let me say Jason the article was good,I really liked the satirical nature of the beginning.Very funny stuff there sir.Second to those commentators that are flipping out over the satirical part of the article.Really?Really?How do you see what is obvious satire and think to yourselves the writer is trying to insult me? It’s like when Taco Bell had those commercials with the chihuahua.And some people got angry.Just like there was people dumb enough to see a talking dog in a commercial and said to themselves that’s me.There are some people reading satire and their first thought is he’s talking about me.He’s not he was talking about how the companies go out of their way promoting the game as free then act shocked that not everyone is paying them money.

    Jason keep up the good work.And to those stupid people out there I’m gonna leave you with some words of wisdom my grandfather told me once.It’s better to be thought a fool,then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    • Lol if you don’t know what your talking about i think you should listen to grandfather….. (Please read all the comments not just some…. ) Cause at the moment your are incredible ignorant and don’t know how things work in other areas…

      First of all do you really think the companies are surprised that people don’t pay for their free game… Do you think they work for years to release a game and put so much money and people and time to release that game…. and then be surprised that people don’t pay for their game? Do you think free to play games are not getting money? Or are not profitable… Think again genius… Do you think that example with World of Tanks in the article that the game developers are surprised their are not making money? Don’t you see how much money they are making? Do you know how? Document yourself better and then we can discuss…
      Second game are released for different kind of target “audience”. The analyze first for what kind of players they release the game for and then release the game… It target “audience” differences from age, region, financial power and posibility of paying, culture, sex, region tendencies etc etc…
      In some areas like Asia there is a different culture of gaming ( games,players etc. ) and expect different reactions to games than Europe for example… Have you been to Egipt , China, India, Central America, Eastern Europe etc etc (not so rich region and countries)? Do you think people will give you Euros for chores? Some Adult people with families will live very good and a long time with what you earn with your part time job… You are just living in your world there not knowing anything about what’s outside and think that you know everything… I think you are just young still and just learning about life in general in your own region… Maybe later you will extend your region and life experience and then you will see how “stupid we are” and who’s not “stupid”
      Learn more and grow up a little, maybe see the world, travel, then talk to us….

      • It’s funy your going around calling me and others ignorant.When you can’t grasp what satire is.And in most of your replies to people on this page you bring up china,india and egypt etc.So your whole arguement is well these other countries are poor so that means everyone that doesn’t agree with me is stupid.Also you assume I’m young and just learning about life in my region.When I’m 32 and from october of 2001 to July 7,2006 I was a marine fighting in Afghanistan.Saw plenty of people living in a poor country.Never heard a single civilian over there ever use the fact their country is poor as an excuse for anything.Even visted poland once when I was in europe on vacation with my family.

        Did some volunteer work helping my wife who participates in doctors without borders last year.Visted countries in south america and africa.And not once did I here those people act as ignorant as you.But they get what satire is.Maybe you need to expand your life experience.Cause all I see is you making an ass of yourself.The article was satire that made the point that publishers go around saying their games are free to play,then sometimes wonder why so many players don’t pay a dime.

        But you wil never grasp that cause your the typical chip on the shoulder person,that will use every reason under the sun to justify your life sucking.And not once ever take a look in the mirror and realise your life sucks because of you.You think every American lives in the land of milk and honey?That everyone in the USA is wealthy and unaware of how bad others have it?Get a clue,most Americans are as poor as the people in those countries you listed.But outside the USA most news outlets only show the rich 1%.

        The reality is most people all over the world have it tough while a handful of people have all the money and power.But most of us are willing to work our asses off to try and have a better life.My wife worked at a Mcdonalds to put herself through college.And I used my paycheck while serving my country to help her pay for medical school.Now she’s a pediatrician And I’m head of the IT department for a local company.Both of us came from having nothing and not a cent to our names.But we worked hard and now we live comfortably.And when we have time off from our respective careers we do volunteer work.

        And in my travels I’ve seen plenty of people all over the world that just like my wife and I,have little to nothing.But not once have I ever heard them bitch and cry about being in a poor country.Would they like to have lots of money?Sure they would.But instead of griping about most will tell you they big dreams that one day they are gonna achieve.Yeah they don’t complain,they don’t go around saying the rest of the world doesn’t understand their plight.They work hard and are glad to have what little they do have.And strive to make a better life for themselves.Granted most of them won’t reach those dreams,but at least they don’t whine like you.

        • Your describing your life experience around Afghanistan, Poland, South America Africa etc. and accusing me of crying? Do you know what the whole discussion here is about?
          First of all, I retract my accusations, but not all of them… I congratulate you for visiting and volunteer work. And i thank especially your wife for her dedication and her big heart. You are a lucky man 🙂 . Now the ones that i don’t retract will follow…
          The whole point of being a satire is for its making fun of a not good situation with the result of seeing the wrong in that situation and what should be done and to get to a social problem solution.
          This whole “satire” goes wrong from the start, from the base… That companies don’t know what they are doing. As an head IT department you should know how companies release games and what is their target. They know what they are doing.. They invest a lot of time, money, people, contracts etc. to release a game.
          That it is not done by night and so superficial. You know that… Now F2P is a different strategy and its has his own goals.. And it look like it is very profitable not only now but in the future… And a lot of companies get on this bandwagon.. Why?
          Do you think they depends on the money players spend ingame? Now if you work in IT your should know already that answer… Now why this article making fun of players and companies for that word FREE? Because companies know what they are doing. The F2P strategy is real and profitable and examples already exist and future is tending to this… Players clearly have their reasons to spend or not to spend( comments show a glimpse of that)… So what is the the point of this article? Because from its base it lacks substance… This is not a satire.. This is a poor article anyway you turn it..
          Now I am not winning, i am defending the ones that can’t have what everybody has and i am maybe ragging against ignorant fools that accuse the others for not doing what they have and do. This article is not only for a certain spectre of people. Its for all, games too. So here is the problem in all of this.
          Secondly, thanks for your intuition about me, but my life is ok ( i have for now all i want and need ) and my future seems good if i keep this path. I am not winning… I am ragging at some ignorant fools. That includes the author and you also.
          Ok from what you described you are not a child discovering life in your own region. But from your statements it doesn’t look that you are far from that… even with your traveling experience… Try to put yourself in the people situations before actually making on opinion. Try to think that you and see how that affects you. Good that you are volunteering with your wife and help others… But you come as a guest there, do some thing and then go…. They are left with the rest of the life there…. Don’t get me wrong… all kind of help matters… and i congratulate you and your wife. But you only come there for a certain time, do your thing and go… You can’t really know what its like there.. Your in a trip, an adventure of helping others( I repeat heads of to both of you for that) but thats all. You are feeling nothing much because your life is the same, only different that you see something else and do something else a certain time… Its like going to the wood for camping and planting a tree there and leave after… It was nice no? But try living all your life in the woods.. Do you get where i’m going at?
          Try to see yourself living there… as a kid or a father even… Do you have internet? Do you have a computer? Do you have money to spend in games? If you do have a computer by some chance and pay for internet wouldn’t you like the FREEEE games? As a father for your kid or as a kid yourself? You will benefit the same things as an other kid from around other countries around the globe? That isn’t nice? A lot of things are not good, unfair in life but at least some things can be… I will encourage this and defend the ones who can’t afford this..FREE is a anyway a misleading word.. because in a way if you play that game you pay for it.. you pay for your internet monthly. And companies look for as much “Free” users possible. Need to explain this?
          And lastly, people that are poor don’t cry and wine to foreigners of course. They are humble, hospitality and joyful with other people and guests because in general that how people react when they meet and are better things to discuss that complain and wine. But what can they do… live their life and get the most of what they have. And you should better think of the imigrations.. Why America has so much imigrations? Because in other countries is good? Hell America became what it is today because people imigrated searching for a better life somewhere else.
          And yes everybody has their dreams and life expectations, but those dreams differ and expectations from people to people and especially from region to region… For some are insuficient and for other that is their best wishes possible.
          So for an adult with travelling experience like you said it seems that you close your eyes or don’t want to know more…. You should open your eyes and mind more. Good for your for volunteering but you should also borrow something from your wife and try to understand the real situations where you go through and what your situations are at home and how different is to live in other areas…

  8. Firstly I just want to address that, yes, Mr. Winter, I did catch that the entire article was satirical–something that 95% of these apes in the comments seem to miss.

    With that said I very much loved the “In three months of a new game P2P subscription game, you’d be expected to pay around $100 total. Even if you need to buy a few XP boosters or the like, you’re unlikely to spend that much in three months of playing any F2P game” bit you threw in there. It made me chortle like the mad hatter.

    I always did wonder why cheapskates say P2P are expensive when in three months I only pay ~$45 dollars. In those three months I easily get a couple hundred hours of entertainment..but I suppose dropping ~$20 or so at a cheap fast food joint on a meal that lasts 15 minutes is so much more worth it to folks.

    People, right? Thanks for the article Jason.

    • Do you even know how much people earn in other countries? In China?( where you Iphone is build and where your awesome country has a huge debt) , or in other asian countries? Or in Egipt? Or in South America? or Central America ( no, relax, your country is not there… 😛 ) , or in Middle East countries? , or in Eastern Europe? Not to say Africa…. etc.

      Now go to your fast food and eat like a typical American and mind your own business before calling others apes whitout knowing nothing… Moron

      • Its the treu itself… besides , they make this low graphics game like wow or starcraft… and asian comes with that ucountable cuantity of huge and gorgeous games , and for free, and they pretend and demand that we have to pay? Why? because they think that is right and pretend everyone else feels bad about noy paying? LOL! keep trying usa… keep triying.

  9. Wow. What a dbag. It’s Free-to-play. why should we pay for something that is…FREE?! It’s free-to-play for a reason. To get the gaming population on it so they can see all the goodies in the market that they can buy to make them a ‘better’ player. Pay-to-win. Ever heard of it? On paper, they could make more money off selling virtual items for real cash than they would making it a paid game. That or a more steady income. If they don’t want ‘freeloaders’ than they wouldn’t release it as a free game. Simple as that. So, sorry for taking advantage of something that is free to consumer. It is people like the artist here that make the coming generations worse than the previous one. Oh, and because I work hard to make sure that there’s food on your table, and building material to build your house with etc, I’m going to start charging you a $100 fee every time you go to a store as a ‘maintenance’ fee’.

  10. Everyone that is attacking Jason and this article, needs to take a chill pill…
    You’re all acting like a bunch of pissed off toddlers, and you need to just…. relax.
    Take some deep breathes.
    If you don’t agree with what someone says (either in the comments or the article itself) there isn’t a need to go nuts.
    There is a difference between telling someone politely, “I’m going to have to disagree” and “You’re a dumb ass etc etc etc.”
    If some of you didn’t notice… he isn’t actually attacking F2P players…. at all.
    This is satire…

    His words right here;

    “Warning, incoming satire”

    If you don’t know what the meaning of satire is, I’ll even include it in this comment just for YOU!

    sat·ire [sat-ahyuhr]
    the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc.
    a literary composition, in verse or prose, in which human folly and vice are held up to scorn, derision, or ridicule.
    a literary genre comprising such compositions.

    • lol. You’re funny. If he’s going to give criticism then he should expect to receive it back, especially since he didn’t fully think about what he wrote before he posted.

  11. this article is a joke “whose fault are all the freeloaders?” if the game is free, what do you expect? most free to play games are absolute trash

  12. Hm, as you can see from the comments.

    Free 2 Play is a hotly debated topic that will go on forever down into the depths of page 10 forum trolling if you let it.

    I believe the POINT of the article was to say developers focus too much on the word “FREE” when they should be focusing on…”Oh hey we have an awesome gameplay experience here.”

    • The word free is for attracting players as many as possible… When the competition is already offering quality content for free, would you pay for a game that promises “awesome gameplay experience”? If you pay and its not so great or it is not for you?

      • I was saying a it can still be a free game but instead of smearing free everywhere they can say they have a good game experience.

        And yes I can and do pay for both free and pay to play games, I have this amazing thing called a job and 15 dollars a month is not exactly alot of money.

  13. We all have the right to try out any game when its labeled “Free” so theres nothing wrong with it, if the game developers managed to convince a player to pay money for something they love then good for them, if they can’t then they just fail. I play a lot F2P titles just to try them out for a good long while before i decide to use my money if its worth it and many games are not worth spending money in ever sometimes.

  14. Children most likely won’t have a credit card to pay for the games
    Adults won’t even bother to play most of these **** games “oh boi look at this just another f2p Korean MMORPG same as the 10000000000000000000000 other ones I should definitely play this and support this by pouring money”

    Most single player games are more fun than average f2p MMORPG

  15. If the game meets certain requirements. I have no problem spending money on it. Example. World of tanks. When I was playing it and I had a problem I took it to support had a response in a few hours, after that dropped about 200 on new tanks and premium. Anything ever put out by Nexon…never got a response and thus never spent a dime. Hearthstone cbt. Had an issue was able to resolve in it in 15 minutes dropped some cash.

    The problem with many developers and their f2p model is they treat it as a turn key enterprise like a self service car wash. Problem is they forget to restock the DAMN SOAP or every answer their phones. Many of these companies have the worst security which allows hackers to just run wild and rather then improve their security to start ban waves which do catch many hackers sweep up the innocent as well and offer no resolution process or recuperation for lost time and money spent. When companies show that level of apathy to customer care then why should any one pay then anything.

  16. I don’t pay because I simply… can’t, yes, $5 seems cheap, but here $5 is R$10 and I don’t have that much money to spend on games, I’m not even buying games at all for a while now

    this mean that I don’t ever spend money on f2p? no… I do, but since I can’t spend all the time, I only do on games I’m certain that I’m going to play for quite some time, like I did with ragnarök, perfect world, ether saga and few others

  17. Bloody free players, increasing the game population and creating a community !!! Damn them all for coming to play a game, that we gladly put out for free, for free.

    Jason Winter has completely missed the mark with this article. Free players are not moochers, or cheapskates or any other derogatory term that Jason can come up with. Free players build up the base of the game population, and make the game worth playing. Think about it, if EVERYONE bought XP boosters there would be absolutely no point in buying them. Paying players pay to get an advantage, and without free players there is no advantage to be gained. Add to this the publicity (word of mouth) that free players will give a game they enjoy playing for free. This publicity then attracts more players (who might pay).

    If F2P game studios were shutting down left right and center, then I could kind of see your point Jason. As it is though, most are highly profitable ventures that:

    1. Make the Devs and Publisher money
    2. Allow paying players to feel advantaged
    3. Allow free players to play a game for free by bringing A LOT of benefits to the game

      • But that Jason Winter guy know what he is writing in this article? He is 10 years old? Doesn’t he know how things work? Does he think F2P games are made just as easy as making breakfast? Does he think that companies don’t really know what they want with their games and depend on the pitty money that players donate? How naive can he be? Did he at least made some research how F2P model really work? And how can it be so profitable?
        Does he know there are other countries except America, Australia, Canada and UK, witch are not so wealthy to throw money around left and right? Or that there are different categories of people playing games and how much they really play those games? Or if those F2P games do really deserve money donations or if ingame money are worth spending to benefit the player for everybodys needs? This list can go on forever….
        But i wonder…. Does he really pay the internet? Doesn’t he wonder where those money go? Doesn’t he find ODD that are lot of FREE STUFF on the internet that are PROFITABLE? AND THIS INCLUDING GAMES?
        Very poor really…. I’m not mad or nervous because somebody calls me cheapskate, but im very shocked about this disastrous article and how easy is to say things you don’t even know nothing about… or pretend you don’t know nothing about?
        I wonder…. Is he payed for this article? Do you pay him to write articles on your site? Is he an employee?

  18. Yeah, well, I don’t know about you, but I play *FREE* to play games, because they are *FREE*. Why the frick would I spend money for a *FREE* game, when I have the option not to? If you don’t like it, you might as well just rename the model from *FREE* to Play to “We Want You to Buy Sh*t”. When I have the option to play a FREE to PLAY game for *FREE*, I usually choose to continue doing so. If I wanted to pay for a game, I wouldn’t install this *FREE* game in the first place.

  19. I want to remind to Mr. Jason Winter that he’s writing an article for a web page called mmobomb.com and if you read the subtitle of this web page says clearly “explosive FREE mmo games”. So the question is.. what does FREE mean?

  20. I have no problem with this article, but you should consider “age”, we “kids” don’t have jobs, and mostly not every kids gets money from their parants or if they are…. not everyone is “allowed to buy through online or buy at all” because most parents don’t like it, because of security issues as a example. And yes…. we are playing free to play games for a reason… no money, no game. ( one of the reasons why thepiratebay is so popular.

  21. I put money into games when I can afford to. Unfortunately, I might have other monetary obligations to take care of and buying from in-game stores aren’t always top of the list.

  22. Why would Freeloaders be a fault in the first place?

    Step 1 – Try to rip-off people with a promise you won’t keep
    Step 2 – Blame them for not paying and appeal to their conscience
    Step 3 – Capitalism

    Always interesting topic.

  23. @Jason,

    It sucks but it seems you’ve gone over the head of most of the bigots who feel compelled to post and chastise. I’d advise that next time you structure it a bit better so it is clear which angle you are coming from, who is at the heart of your arguments, who you are defending and what you position is so no one can misconstrue what you are saying.

    • Yeah bigots.. nice.. Try to think a little and see how this article is in every way wrong… It’s surely not the players fault and trust me its neither the companies fault either… These companies know where they want to go with their F2P strategy because its a profitable strategy and that’s why so many adopt this strategy…
      And its profitable because of the number of players playing in general… not because players pay for everything in the game…. Number of players and their playing time in that game brings profit…
      Stop being so arrogant and stupid in the same time and try to think why so many games are being released F2P and why other games F2P have so much succes….
      Maybe you could research before you call others “bigots”……. IDIOT

      • Bigots, very apt, do you even know what satire is? Define it for me. While you are at it, explain what this article means. Its ok to call it an embarrassment if you can actually point to where and how it does that. So please enlighten me.

        • If you think this article demonstrates its a satire than you should look up the dictionary yourself. I can copy paste the definition from the dictionary and show you that its nothing close to a satire… It doesn’t have its base where to start, no truth in it just the authors subjective thoughts witch are wrong of course ( we can see from comments of people ) and the purpose of this article doesn’t “intent of shaming individuals, corporations, and society itself, into improvement” or “constructive social criticism, using wit as a weapon and as a tool to draw attention to both particular and wider issues in society” . Its final purpose can’t improve anything because he is far from the truth and accusing the players for not supporting games and then accusing companies for their wrong politics for not knowing what they do ( when its clearly that these companies know what they want when they start a big project for years to come) is not satiric.. Believe me i know what a satire should look ( one of the greatest author in my country is known only for his satires volums) and this is far from it. Throwing a word satire in a text doesn’t excuse a poor article or text.. For the rest of your “enlightenment” i wrote enough posts here. I don’t want to waste more time writing this… Stop calling other biggots and defend blindingly a poor article whitout anything truthfully in it and whitout a logical, normal purpose. You want a satire? Here: He acts like a typical ignorant American and his eyes hurt each time he sees the word Free :). Good luck with your enlightenment 🙂

  24. “Whose Fault Are The Freeloaders? ” Its the countrys fault, because not everyone has a job or earns enough money to pay for mmo’s.

    • Even if u can work are you still gona work? u know i ve got tons of homework and assignment, if i play game as well i wont have much time work. If the games r free y need to pay?

  25. If you dont have money for a game for whatever reason, that is your problem now really… isn’t it?
    Lets be real here, games are made so the developers would get paid for their work, if we all freeload and dont even dish out some form of money for them the game will just plain wither and die.
    Not to mention it is a real slap in the face to people who were already subscribed and paying for the game because some of the things they were paying for are no longer there and free, which raises the question as to what are you even paying for?
    Let me give you an example, Star wars the old republic.
    Decent game, limited as F2P but you can get to the end game, you can buy a one time item to enable rare equipment and other things including but not limited to Character slots, Inventory Slots, Bank Slots, Joining a Guild, Whispering and that pointless stuff(Trust me you are lucky to not be a part of the horrific chat), 3 or something flashpoints a week.
    *Not much but once you have played all of them once you realize they are really bleak, boring and horrific to be put on repeat.
    So Subscribers get what? You already unlocked the gear(Plus color unification), Character slots, Bank slots, Inventory Slots obviously auction house slots or not(Auction house is horrific because everyone will try to undercut you 50% of the time.) Unlimited money(Only useful thing really) Unlimited amount of flashpoints but you can do them once a week anyway and your guild might not include you in every week raids, especially DPS. So 7 day permit is a better thing to buy which is not expensive even. Story is free so you aint paying for that. You get 25% or so more experiance which is decent but can be fixed with the EXP buffs. You can craft more but some crafting is worthless anyway.

    So in the end I dunno what you really pay for besides unlimited money, freedom of guild leadership, some extra crafting aaaand… uhhh, suppose nothing really important? Thats money well spent right there. Oh lets not forget the continuous additions to the cartel market which requires extra money from you and you wont likely even get the item you wanted because drop rate for them all is random.

    You will likely get 20 pairs of belts and bracers before the item you actually wanted.
    In the end, this free to play model creates a greedy market that is ripping off paying players.

  26. I think the main reason why this is getting so much flak, is mostly because there’s no indication of where the message is being directed. Yeah, this is an issue with the industry, but at the same time Jason pointed out flaws at a very general audience instead of pointing out the other sub-demographic of folks who have legitimate reason not to pay. Much like expressing counter arguments in a persuasive essay, you have to be able to show a differing perspective to show everyone that you do know what you’re talking about. Right now, a few people know and realize this, but it’s not clear enough in the writing for it to be displayed as fact rather than a semantic theory.

    In short, Better do a liiiiittle more proofreading before tackling this touchy subject.

    • You should leave this comment especially to the journalist who wrote this crap whitout researching and whitout knowing what world he lives in….
      It’s his job to research before releasing a statement or an article about a certain subject..

      Stop defending a poor journalist and a poor article

      • uhmm… I am? What the hell are you talking about? I’m not defending him, I’m telling him that he did something wrong with this article. Quit trying to flame bait. :/

  27. If a game is free to play and no subscription is required that means you don’t have to pay a cent ever…

    Even if I was a millionaire I would not spend money on games.. I spend money on real life things like medicine or food… etc

    I don’t support games because I do not require games to live… the companies who make games should worry about them selves not make plays worry if they will make money or not.

  28. Since I worked behind the scenes before I have witten a column on this. I will try again here to summarize. You know how youtube and Facebook are multi million dollar companies and do not sell a single product? Do you know why your cell phone only charges you .10 for 3 paragraphs sent to outspace satalites?
    Now look at these companies, they basically run the world. Space is filled with their satalites, the enterprises have huge sky scraper buildings and yachts in ever port.
    GPS was a free military service where all you needed was to buy the reciever…Why?

    Because it is ALL PAID FOR UP FRONT! That 25 bucks a month you pay for internet, although a small sum (like the text message charge) is monopolied. Even if the business has competitors, it is still going to the same people. multiply that by the rate of gowth and you have millions pouring in. That alone pays for fees, business expenses and research with extra to throw on on the investment market or expand. And that is just the people. Now the private. When another sky scraper needs internet, they do not pay the 25 bucks per line as you do. They have special fees and rates (in the thousands, or usually millions but paid out over 90 years or the durration of the business, IE, it is apart of the cost of the business if some one purchased the buiding)… What does all that have to do with the game business?
    Because space is limited I will try to sumarize. The games are paid for themselves x3 over usually when launched. Everything depends on the contract and use of cash. SOny, for example, knows you cannot run the internet without its laptops (well you would but they have a huge market share). They make a contract with Cow Cable, and get a percentage of your internet bill profits, they also sign a deal with local elcetric ocmpany, and then sign deals with microsoft. You know have a system to big to fall. This means they do no independent contracting to other branches because they want to increase profits on any adventure, even if it COSTS THEM NOTHING. So the board members are formed, they create an mmorpg brnach saying “hey, we can rake in 15 bucks per person subscribed”, but only if the profits break the investment and raise it by the end of 2 years.
    MEaning, the game can run fully paid and stay open infanantly, but the greed behind the wheel (board of non gamers) needs paid. IF they do nto like the profits, they shut it down; The code is not sold, because even if some one said, “oh hey, I will take the code and host the game all alone”. If SOE says yes and thet good guy makes .001 cent off the relaunch, and it is ok whatever…but if the YOU THE PEOPLE end up liking it and paying out of kind heart (Star Citizen), then they get mad and jelous and will try to sue you saying “oh well that was out title”. So instead of getting sue crazy, they shut it down.
    IT gets more complicated, and this is the route most titles go. Unless you are indie and take more risk. More risk = less partners (like your cable company). HEnce the birth of kick starters etc.
    Foregin titles, like the asian games that get ported have different contracts, they usually do the same crap, but back in their home land. IF successful, they might get lucky enough to negotiate a partnership in the other parts of the world, but usually through corpirate backers, like NExon etc..
    PWE is it’s own franchised software. They sell the core Perfect World game like a casino machine to other countries to RENT OUT. As long as people are paying they will keep the slot machine in their building. And they have stock trade.
    All in all, these media sites, and the companies would like you to think IT IS YOUR FAULT. That some you slipped and tripped on the F2P install button, and since they have no repo man to knock on your door and force you to subscribe, they blame you for it. When the board members demand their fully paid game is not making what htey want, IT IS YOUR FAULT. And all these sissy ball less media sites do the PR song of “YOU FREE LOADERS”.
    I have paid subscription games since EQ, WoW, etc…I have had the same quality of service and content as the new F2P market. I have had hackers in my paid wow account. I have had lost inventory in EQ. I have had bad to no customer support. The content is pathetic as the other titles. Vut the fan boi is dillusional and or tries to support his “team” like a foot ball fan or a political fanatic. You have to seperate the football mentality here. Those are other forms of entertainment. Supporting a title is not like supoprting your local team. YOu know not hte real players. You want to meet them? They are blowing your sub money on cocain in vegas and yachts in the pacific.

  29. Personally I think the way we pay for mmo’s etc may have to change. Someone that can’t find $15 a month worth of time won’t pay for it. Paying for quest packs etc is good but what if you don’t like it. I think they could charge by the hour or something similar. First 5 hours are free then 20 hours for $15 or something. I would like this cause you can have multiple games at once or if you can’t play the game you don’t lose more money.

  30. i dont see any reason for p2p most mmo’s were just bad and if the mmo was p2p well congrats you just spended money and a game that was not good like guild wars 2 everyone was soo hyped about it
    but when they finaly started playing it everyone managed to finish that mmo in like 1 week the developers doesnt even want to make expansions i would rather try a mmo before spending instead of
    being hyped about a game i dint play yet

  31. By the way,if i had any money i would send them but my family is poor so i cant,how can you even write that post when some people arent the richest?

  32. Wow…well guys, i hate to login on site for putting a question, but this shit deserved it, MMObomb, you lost all my respect with this, i know a developer and a manager of an online game, and she asked me to help her on developing the game from the suggestions of a gamer, the point is that the game is free to play, from 2008 i play free-to-play games, and i’ve never spent 1€ on them, no one disappointed that, well i hate shoppers in pvp and pay-to-win games, and now you say that i do something wrong? then, i must laught, because if you offer me free bacon and then complain about the fact that i didn’t pay it, then you are an hypocritical! and yes, say goodbye to me, i will remove my subscription to newsletter of this site….omg i don’t tought that a site like this would do such a bad move…

    • Reread the article. It is not talking about people who don’t pay to play. It’s talking about the companies that make free-to-play games. Though the writer could’ve chosen his words better. <.<

      • It’s cool Spunkify.
        But not that not everyone here are from the West and they may take these kinds of humor seriously. Cultures are different at parts of the world. Some people wouldn’t tolerate the roughhousing behavior

  33. and to p2player……and am freeloader at every game you can play because i am trying all…and only really few ppl can stop at any game style you can mind….like a tornado on a corn field:-D never had problem with premium users:-) you can try it if you want it:-D but dont play mmorpgs, i growed up from that:-) only action filled games:-)

  34. I pay for games I feel are worth it… games that put effort and work into the game and doesn’t just copy/paste every single game on the market today to make a quick buck. I will join a free to play game and play it for a good while to get a feel for the game, check the community, and see all the game has to offer when I reach end game. If I find that the game is lacking I won’t pay a cent, if the games community is aweful I move on to a new game, If the company that host the game doesn’t care about bugs/exploits/bots/gold farmers I refuse to give them money.

    Once I find a game I enjoy and are willing to stay with for a good long while I pay them and enjoy the features a paid subscription or cash shop provides me… But lately they have all been very lazy and it shows. I hope the future games being released aren’t as terrible.

  35. 😀 i think the main reason why ppl dont pay for games, is that they are f**** expensive…some of them really joking with prizes. i am buying old games, and games which want a reasonable prize…if you look at credit shop of world of battles, you will need your monthly pay for make army you want:-D and the same is the tank prize at wolrd of tanks….thay came down, but still…all friends who playing it are all behind 100 euros, and thats means lots of food, drugs, or even a woman in a club. with 200 euros you can find a old car yourself:-) and the second problem is the old computers players….you will really dont pay game which dont run perfectly on your machine…i was thinking about premium at League of Legends, world of tanks, tribes ascend, world of battles, and warthunder…LoL changed, so it sucks now for me, world of tanks becomes little laggy for me at best details after graphics updates, but i will come back to it, tribes becomes laggy after time, and only warthunder will be mine surelly:-) and i remember time whan League of legends had old graphicc mod for old Graphipcs without shader…and who bought it because it was only game that works smoothly…was pissed off when they stopped it….and with that numbers af active players i think 10 percent is good:-)

  36. The kids crying about subscription cost because of college payments are cute, wtf are you playing games for if you’re in college, go study little guys. I like freeloaders because I usually pay for games, because omg I have a job but freeloaders are fun, easy to kill and cry alot. I don’t see the problem. They have to do twice the work for twice the time, it is all relative. Most people do have the money but do not want to pay, they know they can achieve the same thing as a paying player just not as fast (in most games, SWTOR restricts way too hard). I do like that everyone at lvl 55 in swtor are all paying players… the freeloaders stay at lvl 50 in a different pvp bracket… where they belong hahahahhaa

    • It’s probably because college students do stuff other than study. When you leave your job do you study your rule book? If you bring your work at home, will that be all you do during the day? Not looking too different other than what you do pays and what they do they have to pay for(not including finaid. Even then the amount they are being paid is relative to where they live, if they’re from out of state, their financial background, etc.). Truly ignorant comment there dude.

      • Your comment makes no sense, first off i play SWTOR when i get off work, did you not read the comment? Wtf was your point anyway? people pay diff prices in diff regions? what does that have to do with anything i said, I see you trolling up and down this post, yet no points being made… you must be a f2player, no job, and too much time on your hands to be posting this much on a crappy site lol. sorry spunky

  37. I only pay for games that I know I am going to enjoy in the long run. For example, I am still playing a free to play game that came out in 2007. As long as the game entertains me, I will pay for it.

  38. Meh. This article is neither informative or entertaining.

    P.S. Freeloaders? In Russia it is a common belief that anyone who pays for a game is either dumb or insecure. Millions of ignorant *****s deeply believe that those who spend real world money on a game are breaking it. From time to time you can even hear/read something like “Duh! Everybody knows that cash shop is not the main source of income for developers and publishers!”.

  39. In short: QQ.

    In long:

    First of all nothing is free. They should go take it up with my ISP why I am not paying for there game. We don’t owe them jack crack! We are not the ones who made them go f2p! Even somehow I had money to pay for a f2p or sub2p, why would I waste my money on poop quality games they give us anyways? They are all the same and are non creative or challenging. They are all turning into single player PVE non open world pvp/pk care bear games(WoW clones). Why should we give them free money when there games SUCK! And deep down inside everyone knows this but are in denial because if they give up on the games they are playing, they will have nothing to do and would be bored. So people try to put up with what they got and make the best out of it crap. So they should STFU or pack up cause they games are not even worth the trouble anyways!

  40. Whoever wrote this article is a complete f*** nerd… Free to play games draw people who don’t want to dip money into a game. It seems like that’s so overlooked.


    Yes, you can make a profit at free to play but don’t fucking turn the tables on the f2p players saying they are moochers. People that wanna pay for games can pay, probably end up playing better games anyways but then again, people play games to have fun.

    Whoever wrote this needs to get on with their life…

  41. @Jason Winter

    If your a journalist you should research more the subject… For writing this you are a very poor games journalist… REALLY? How can you think and write such a poor article and don’t know how things work…
    How did you get a job in this domain? You use internet and don’t know how all the things related to the internet work ? ( including games)


    Let me give you a clue… Radio posts have employees too and your listening to them for free? TV companies that make TV shows have employees? Are you watching them for free? And how come some make more money than others in the same industry? RATING….( + publicity, contracts with 3rd parties etc.)
    Now compare it to the internet and see if you find similarities… ( why the quoted World of Tanks then keep releasing new games and keep on profit + buying licenses for other games…?) ( or Lol offers so many prizes and tournaments or Dota 2 is supported unconditionally by Steam for free?) (etc. )
    Are you really that naive and superficial and unprepared or are you just playing stupid so you can convince kids to start paying in F2P games to support the games…
    Your article is so poor its a disgrace and calling players names like “freeloader” or “moocher” or “cheapskates” its shameful for a journalist in general…
    All comments above show some reasons why people don’t pay blindly money to F2P and not knowing that if they only play that game means supporting the devs and their game.. The money they spend in the game is a PLUS, A BONUS.
    So please don’t make a fool out of your self.. Its a shame to read something like this …. Hope nobody important sees it.( Maybe this job is not for you… Maybe another job?)

    • My dear friend, it seems that you have misconstrued the entire point of the article.

      Firstly, it is not an article meant to call out the poor or cheap majority of persons who play F2P games, it is to get developers of such titles to understand that when they market a game as FREE TO PLAY it will attract a certain crowd. Nevertheless, people will always find ways to pay and support what they appreciate and love. The job of developers and publishers is to streamline their monetization models to cater more to the crowd they are trying to attract in the first place. I.E. have value based pricing meant to gain profits from bulk sales, as well as super unique and expensive non-intrusive or advantageous content that can be enjoyed with those with fatter purses.

      The comments with regards to the names are just those commonly tossed around by the f2p elitists who look down on players who do not spend anything. It is not Jason Winter hurling insults at anyone and the time it took you to write that incoherent, misguided, ad hominem laden wall of text, you could have taken a minute to read over the article , better understand its tone and its message and most importantly, add something to the discussion.

      Secondly is my two cents. Anyone who does not take into account the benefit of free players in f2p games are woefully misinformed. A free player is a person, a person who invests time and effort and if they like something and if the product is good then they become a very effective marketing tool that pays for themselves with every twitter message, fb statement, forum post, youtube comment and word of mouth representation, that positively promotes any title.

      Not only the above but they also add a very necessary part of the experience by POPULATING these titles. Without the 80% of non paying persons in World of Tanks, it could not have grown to the heights and pinnacles that it has reached today. With no one to play against in a competitive multi-player game, no matter how good your game is, it will not succeed. League of Legends was built by word of mouth, by persons like me who have never spent a dime in that game but actively pushed it since the beginning. That is because, online games are inherently social, that mechanic enables that would be “moocher” to encourage his friends to play. Those new found players can then translate into potential customers who are willing to spend their money in support of a game they now love. As the cycle continues the game gains valuable momentum and internet “hype-share”, which, not unlike marketshare in the real world, can see expansion skyrocket because you have ACCESS to a wider consumer base. That is why things like becoming a ‘house hold name’ were so vitally important to the world’s largest titles like The Elder Scrolls, GTA, World of Warcraft, Team Fortress 2, LoL, etc etc.

      Free to Play is about volume and the ecosystem is created by a game with a good foundation and proper monetization models that enable anyone to take away something from it no matter how rich or poor. Every player has a part to play and all of them are vital, paying and non-paying alike. Developers need to understand that their first priority is to create an excellent product first and foremost, word will spread like wildfire. Then once they have a set and interested player base, they can focus on keeping them by making the game open and accessible to as many players as possible. That means NOT gating or restricting content, getting the entire community involved with in game events and prizes, maintaining healthy, frank and open discussion on their forums and foster the kind of spirit that makes people not only want to play and promote your game. So, in the end you can have 10’s of millions of people playing your game. With a loveable game 20-30% of those will pay something at some point in time and you will see your returns. The key will always be Great Product->Community Spirit->Promotion->Expansion in Player Base->Profit, rinse and repeat and you’ve got your cash cow.

      Imagine the game SWTOR would have been today if it went F2P from the start, had no restrictions and aimed to make its money from weapon, vehicle, clothing skins, color palettes, pet/companion skins etc. Think of all the millions of Star Wars Fans the world over. Think of how many were pining to play such a title with their friends. Now, look at the numbers they pulled. After going f2p with a nonsense model, they managed to pull in around 1.5 mil players. But, with the wealth of fans of the Star Wars universe, no one can question what a colossal failure those numbers are. Nevertheless, what will save that game from being a ghost town and a disaster, are those very same “cheapskates” and “moochers”. Food for thought.

      • My dear friend you also mistaken my comment also… Sorry but English is not my native language and I’m not obligated to write texts 100 % correct.. The main point is that this ideea of this journalist is presented subjectively and not correct, not even he tried to research the subject at all… That poor for a normal person, and shameful for a journalist …
        Free to play is FREE for us users who have internet. For those who don’t of course it won’t work… Now we pay internet monthly… Where doyou think those money we pay go to?
        Try to figure it out and then see if companies who make the games work like stupids for free… F2P games is a different strategy with money comming in long run, in time… Not with the money down… They present their product and let the clients decide to buy and use their product….

        • If English is not your native language I suggest that you steer clear from articles that are not basic and straight forward as you will not be able to pick up on even the most simplistic literary devices and end up leaving with misconceptions that would have you going down the incorrect line.

          • Sorry to disappoint you but this article is as basic and simplistic as “a story for children” -sort of speak… The problem is that every way you turn this article it still sucks… Its an embarrassment for a journalist., for a gaming news site or even for a gaming discussion subject moderator. Even as a gamer that plays games he should know better how games actually work.. Not to say that he is a gaming journalist and he is more involved in the games domain, he can talk to developers, publishers etc. He is around everything related to games and should know better… If he doesn’t know the basic stuff and the comments what everybody doesn’t do and should do… gamers, developers, publishers etc. And he really looks that he doesn’t have a clue…

          • Sorry to disappoint you but this article is as basic and simplistic as “a story for children” -sort of speak… The problem is that every way you turn this article it still sucks… Its an embarrassment for a journalist., for a gaming news site or even for a gaming discussion subject moderator. Even as a gamer that plays games he should know better how games actually work.. Not to say that he is a gaming journalist and he is more involved in the games domain, he can talk to developers, publishers etc. He is around everything related to games and should know better… If he doesn’t know the basic stuff and the comments what everybody doesn’t do and should do… gamers, developers, publishers etc. And he really looks that he doesn’t have a clue… He looks he doesn’t know on what world he lives in… Related to the players all those comments here show that.. Related to developers and publishers if you show them this article I’ll bet they will laugh… I mean come on do you think that all those years to create a game, all those people working to create and release a game, all those money spend to release and keep a game running ( especially those AAA F2P titles) , all that research on the market, all the money and effort for marketing the game, contracts, authorizations etc. … All of those are not well planned and targeted to at least be well relayed? Do you think they do this so superficial when so many things are done for this to work and bring profit? Do you think those F2P titles that came out last years and keep coming out in the present and future are just made out by night? And the rising of F2P model games doesn’t show how profitable the model is and can be? Do you think developers and publishers are idiots? Would be awesome to see how this Jason guy tells them what are they doing wrong and to tell them what to do… 🙂 I mean he just doesn’t know what planet he lives on…. Maybe he thinks that there is just the old great USA and maybe Uk and there is the rest of the world who doesn’t matter… He doesn’t realize that maybe with writing a stupid article like that or whatever he does in a day he earns more than than a similar job employee somewhere else does in a week. Maybe he thinks those games are made only for the US people or for the people who have money to spend left and wright… And the “Free” term is just a strategy to attract more players as much as possible and to that community to keep their game running for years to come and money to be earn in those years until they release another game and so on. It’s a different strategy and its a good one… More players, more lifetime of the game, less money upfront but more money in time and fluency of continual money as long as the game goes and its viable.. It can be profitable more than B2P and it is shown already that some F2P games are very very profitable… So please wake him up because this is a shameful article and don’t encourage him..

          • P.S. F2P model varies from game to game, from company to company, so some games are really “free to play” ( except your internet bill and some looks ingame) and some you really need to buy with cash stuff to really play that game properly. It depends, so you can’t call player names and give them tags and same is for putting all F2P games and companies under the same tag.. And then give your truly genius journalist games advice… It’s so….weird and wrong and stupid on so many levels….
            Sorry for these attacks but had to point out the poor work and thought for this article… And why you can’t release an stupid article like this…

    • “All comments above show some reasons why people don’t pay blindly money to F2P and not knowing that if they only play that game means supporting the devs and their game..”

      Maybe come down to Planet. Im pretty sure everyone (except kids and i mean 12 year old kids) know this. If i say, lets say “support” them thats why i spend money in their shop, i mean they deserve the money for the fun they give me with the game they did create. Maybe also they will come up with a new great game.
      Your Post sounds like someone who fail´d with a game or whatever in life and didnt earn the money he was hoping for.
      Im also pretty sure, your someone who does watch new Movies for FREE on the Internet or downloads Music from youtube.

  42. The one game I payed for (DFO) got shut down so I don’t see myself paying for anything for awhile now. There’s just not many games that are worth paying for like DFO was to me. That and I’m broke as hell so there’s that.

  43. Are u f*** kidding me ? how dare you whoever posted this shit, SO WHAT IF I DONT PAY THEM F**** MONEY FOR THERE GAME ! if they got a problem with that then they should have not maid the dam thing free to start with, yeah sure ill spend someone in there cash shops or what not but that’s if i mean IF the game showing its truely Free to play Not “o you have to buy this to unlocked thes quest line or some such bullshit. this was one of the worst Post by u guys ever how dare u put down free to play gamers (You’re a free player, who refuses to pay for your game. Less charitable names for your ilk are “freeloader” or “moocher.” How dare you take all the hard work the game developers go to to present this game, the millions of dollars, the sweat and tears of thousands of hours’ of labor, and refuse to pay even a dime in support? Who led you to think that sort of thing was appropriate?) When ur Sit is all about free to play games NOT about how u spend ur money on them. GO f*** urself MMObomb and yeah im sure alot of ppl will start saying shit about all of this but really i give two shits what u all think about it. SO on that note i say this, IF the game saying free to play then it show be f*** free to play i should have been maid or feel like i need to pay them money for a GAME they are saying is free to play.

    • Alright guys, this tends to be a quite rare phenomenon (not really…) but I present to you the de-evolution of our species. This person managed to take stupidity, ignorance and lazyness all in one to a whole new level, an astronomic level no one could even dare to think about. He takes the whole cake, just give it to him!

      • Herbvek and nuubs u both are dumb asses Ppl post what they feel like and u sit here just finding ppl to put down, you do this shit in real life too? if so lucky no one beat the shit out of u for it, and as i see u both had nothing to say about the article itself, so its really sad that u just took the time to be dicks other then putting your input about the itself article, its so very sad :-(.

        • It would be much harder for people to insult you if you just took the time to learn how to use proper English.

          That said, I don’t understand how you missed it, but the part where Mr. Winter “insulted” people for not paying for f2p titles was satire. He was clearly trying to take a neutral stance on the issue and peg some reason why a lot of people don’t pay for f2p games – which is the fact that they’re advertised as being free to play.

  44. Free-to-play isn’t the players’ fault….that’s on the developer. If someone chooses not to spend a cent and still enjoys playing it then that’s their right.

    • I do not support those who refuse to pay for their entertainment. I am against it 100%. However, you are completely correct. If the devs make it that way, and players choose to use it as intended, then it cant be their fault. I prefer p2p games for many reasons, but if you can find enjoyment without paying for anything and it is what the game offers, then why not?

      I enjoy this site for the info, vids etc. And occasionally there is a good F2P game worth checking out. I usually spend money on it as I feel its obligatory, but considering some of these comments then playing for free in a free game makes sense.

      Jason you missed a term: welfare gamers.

      And for all the 16yr olds saying how they cant get a job, that’s nonsense. Get a work permit and do something. If that’s too much to go through for you then cut some grass, rake some leaves etc. This ‘but I cant’ attitude wont get you far in life.

      • Jeez, I guess the majority of Americans should come to your house and cut your lawn and rake the leaves cause it looks like your the only not living in a economic crisis.

  45. Mmobomb has far more interesting articles of any other free mmo review site, this is the only one I visit now. SWTOR is free to play but they had an annoying experience decrease for free players so I became a full-time subscriber for a while I even bought they’re expansion. I’ve also laid down some cash for many other MMOs.

    So I try to support the developers of games I really enjoy whenever I can.

  46. The issue isn’t really that they advertise it as being Free to Play.

    First, Free to Play games attract many players that can’t afford to make purchases. Players like this are usually children whose parents aren’t always willing to spend money. They go to Free to Play titles because that’s about all they can afford and want some entertainment.

    The second group doesn’t feel like making a purchase is worth it. The cash shop isn’t enticing enough or too highly overpriced to justify spending anything. These people want to feel like they’re getting a lot for the money regardless of the amount spent. Imagine the people that are always pinching pennies or looking for bargains in real life. They play MMO’s too and this is the result. Gotta be careful not to make the game too Pay to Win or it could scare off another group of players though.

    Lastly, you have the people that aren’t interested in the game or don’t play it very often. You know, they uninstall it quickly or move on to another game only to occasionally stop by and play the game every now and then.

    I think most players that don’t fit into these groups are likely to spend money eventually. There’s the occasional holier than thou type that just thinks spending digitally is like flushing money down a toilet too.

  47. i play F2P games exactly because of that they are free and i am only 16 years were do you expect me to get money to buy games or to pay a monthly subscription

      • “you can get a job” “you can mug and murder people” “deal drugs” real easy to say. also pretty much you should just unplug your keyboard and not talk on the internet any more.

        • Yikes, it’s merely truth dude, chill out o.o; I work in fast food and we have part timers at 16-17 years. If the kid wants to make money bad enough, they can go find a job. If not, then… tough? xD

          • That really depends on where you live at. And of course another thing to have in mind is the situation of the country you live in. In some places even adults can’t get a job this days. So don’t act like you know it all.

          • @ChrisHateX

            I was going to explain myself a bit better, but it seems my knowing more about the job market and how businesses work touched a nerve. I’m being trained in management and I can say for certain that jobs ARE OUT THERE, most especially in the States(since I live there), If you want a job bad enough, you’ll be looking for one instead of showing off your e-peen on the net.

          • Yeah you’re talking about the situation in the USA. You’re forgeting that USA players don’t make 100% of the MMO world. Things aren’t so nice in some parts of Europe and other countries in the world.

            So again, you might know how things are in the states but when it comes to the rest of the world you’re quite ignorant.

          • Uhm, I’ll just kindly put on my nerd cap and say “No Stahko.” please keep showing off your E-peen, I quite frankly could care less of your opinion.

          • You mean “couldn’t care less” right? Because that would mean that you really don’t care about my opinion. The way you said it means that you do.

            And I’m not showing off my “e-peen” you piece of stahko, just showing you that you’re not as smart as you think you are and that you’re quite ignorant when it comes to certain things in the world. You live in your own little world and don’t know anything that’s happening outside. Typical american….

          • I’m surprised you haven’t jumped down someone else’s throat yet about assuming the kid is from the US. Actually, I’m more surprised that you’re more concerned with trying to make me feel bad than making a valid point. Believe me, it’s not working. Only feeling I have is pity, pity that you find insulting a complete stranger from behind a computer screen, just because they have a differing opinion from yours.

            Judging from your animosity, you either are unemployed or just live in a country where the job market is not very great right now. Sorry if either of those are the case, I don’t believe there are very reliable sources on international job markets to be able to truly grasp how each individual country is fairing along, not to mention, I don’t even have the time to do that kind of research since I work nearly 40 hours a week. Am i ignorant of the other nations, yeah maybe I am. Does that make me a bad person? Not really no, in fact, that doesn’t make me a “Typical American” as you so bluntly put it. It just makes me human, because there are many out there all over the world who are in similar situations where they just can’t concern themselves with the problems outside of their home country.

            Case in point, I got my job because I earned it. I put my best foot forward and did everything in my power to show an organization that I can be a great employee and that has turned out well for me. Is it easy? Hell no, I never said it was. It took me several months of searching and networking to get the job I have today. But I succeeded because I never let the politicking, nonsense surrounding “unemployment rates,” and hiring policies discourage me from finding a job that I enjoy.

            Also, quick question: Why is it that other countries hate us Americans for sticking our noses where it don’t belong then turn around get their panties in a bunch when someone actually decides to keep to themselves? Seriously, that’s bad girlfriend logic there.

          • Wow, you’re cool. You’re being groomed for a Managerial position. -_- That doesn’t mean you know what the Job situation is for every City and state in the Country. There may be jobs in YOUR city but that doesn’t mean there are jobs everywhere.

            All this means is you’ve had your job for long enough for them to promote you.

            p.s. using a made up word from a New Sy-fy show does not make you a nerd. It makes you fanboy trying to seem cool. In fact you’re clearly the one trying to show off you’re E-peen.

            You don’t work for the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics so don’t act like you know what you’re talking about. Kthnx

      • You are obviously from USA… Where I come from, you CANT work at 16. Even adults can’t get a job, expect a teenager? It’s almost like a cultural difference, under 5% of minors are able to get a job and go to school at the same time.

        The other thing is, I can’t pay for those games. Sure, I have that 20 Euros right now. IN CASH. So many MMOs only accept credit cards for payment. Not even bank transfers work.

        • actualy the majority of mmos p2p or f2p accept prepaid cards.A large number accept the gamer’s edge cards which are sold almost everywhere except countries with no internet providers.And those that don’t have there own prepaid cards.In fact the only mmo that i think doesnt have or accept prepaid cards and i could be wrong is firefall.And even grocery stores these days sell those cards.So few if any mmos only accept credit cards.And if you can’t get a job cause your 16 in your region,I’m sure you can find people in your town,village,city etc. are willing to throw a couple euros your way to do some errands for them.Hell I used to run errands for neighbors for a couple bucks when I was ten years old.Which is years before I was old enough to get even a part time job.

          So using yor age as an excuse to not earn money is a copout.If a person wants to earn some cash they can if they are willing to wark hard.All your doing is trying to find rationalise your lack of willingness to do what you got to do.It’s like those bums I see standing at the side of the road with signs saying homeless need money.While three blocks up the road I’ll see a immigrant selling oranges or flowers.the bum will come up with a million different reasons why he can’t make any money.While the guy up the road bust his ass all day long finding ways to earn a living.

          • First of all do you really think the companies are surprised that people don’t pay for their free game… Do you think they work for years to release a game and put so much money and people and time to release that game…. and then be surprised that people don’t pay for their game? Do you think free to play games are not getting money? Or are not profitable… Think again genius… Do you think that example with World of Tanks in the article that the game developers are surprised their are not making money? Don’t you see how much money they are making? Do you know how? Document yourself better and then we can discuss…
            Second game are released for different kind of target “audience”. The analyze first for what kind of players they release the game for and then release the game… It target “audience” differences from age, region, financial power and posibility of paying, culture, sex, region tendencies etc etc…
            In some areas like Asia there is a different culture of gaming ( games,players etc. ) and expect different reactions to games than Europe for example… Have you been to Egipt , China, India, Central America, Eastern Europe etc etc (not so rich region and countries)? Do you think people will give you Euros for chores? Some Adult people with families will live very good and a long time with what you earn with your part time job… You are just living in your world there not knowing anything about what’s outside and think that you know everything… I think you are just young still and just learning about life in general in your own region… Maybe later you will extend your region and life experience and then you will see..
            Learn more and grow up a little, maybe see the world, travel, then talk to us….
            As for now you are ignorant and stupid.

          • @ Duty14 first off I was not even addressing you,I was addressing Cobraeik.Second I was using my own experiences in life as an example.And using ones age as why they can’t get a job or find some way to earn money is an excuse.And obviously I must of hit the nail on the head about my point.I assume you are exhibiting all this rage cause you probably are one of those lazy people that want a free hand out in life.And I’m pretty sure their are people in the EU that would be willing to throw a few euros some kids way to mow their lawn for them.Or to babysit their kids when they go out on a date.I pay a local boy in my neighborhood to mow my lawn once a week.

            He’s 12 years old and mows the lawns of 7 different homes in the area.And at 20 dollars a lawn(which is still way below what a landscaping service will charge.)this kid makes a good amount of money.But this is because the kid gets off his ass and hustles.Me when I was younger I was the same way.The only person here that’s ignorant and stupid is you Duty because you try to find excuses to not do something.I don’t care if a man lives in the poorest crappiest country on earth,if he has the will and determination to make more of his life he can.

            Is it going to be easy?Not even in the slightest.Is there a chance you will be stuck in a dead end part time job til the day you die?Yep.But one thing is for sure nobody ever accomplished a damn thing by coming up with a reason why they can’t.You want proof of what I say is true?Look at Dr. Ben Carson,grew up poor in a single parent home.But not once did he ever give a reason he couldn’t do something.Now he’s one of the worlds leading neuro surgeons.

            Me I grew up dirt poor.Both my parents worked two jobs each to just keep a roof over our families head and a little bit of food in our bellies.When I was a boy I had to find ways to earn money to get what I wanted.But not once did I ever say,”but I can’t get a job cause I’m not old enough.”But hey people like you probably didn’t have parents that were hard workers.And if you did then they must be very disappointed in you.

          • Wow you are a true ignorant grown up man….
            Do you really know how the world goes? Do you know why other countries are poor and some are wealthy enough? Do you know how trades and money represent from country to country? For and adult you are really stupid… Really… If you were a kid i could have let it slip… because kids don’t have so much life experience… But grown man…. This cant slip away… YOU ARE STUPID!!!
            It’s too much to explain how thing go, and why countries are unbalanced economic and financial and rate of employment etc. etc.
            First of all, in other countries not that kids can’t get a job, but even adults can barely find a job oportunity if they are lucky enough… Not only that kids don’t have money for games, but kids don’t have computer to play with, or internet or even regular toys for a normal kid would have in your own country.. Hey in some poor countries they can barely manage from one day to the other…
            You are extremely ignorant and stupid and this rage is against people like you who are lucky enough to live good and accuse others that they don’t try to work enough…
            That’s why we call Americans idiots… You are demonstrating it..
            Do you think people in other countries are poor because they don’t want to work? All of them? Do you think people like to stay and do nothing and barely live day by day? Not only that they want to work but finding a secure job that can support them and others for many years to come- is a miracle… In rest is surviving with what you can… For some internet, computers, television, cars, prepaid cards, bank cards, etc etc is a luxury. Like i said its too much to explain and your ignorance is so big that even if i try to explain you won’t believe me until you see it with your own eyes…
            “mows the lawns?”Kids? Kids don’t have lawns to mow and a mow machine is an unknown device… -just an example on your example.
            2 jobs like your parents had is a blessing trust me… Be thankful with what you have and better not accuse somebody else for not having the posibilities that you have…
            P.S. : for your general knowledge I work and study at the same time, and will become a doctor soon. And not like you I am grateful for that and that i can have some decent things in my life.. and unlike you know that there is worse conditions near me and i sympathise with them and i am not accusing somebody before i know their situation first or in this case the whole situation on the globe…
            But I am accusing you for being IGNORANT and IDIOT until you get out of your “lawn” and see how things are out there and maybe then we can start talking… Good luck with your life and your everyday good “lawn”

  48. If the game is good, ill buy something out of the store to support them. If the game blows (which is why most of the games are “F2P” in the most case) i wont pay, i dont even wanna play it.

    Im playing since 3 years LoL, not much anymore, but i bought some skins to support them. I also bought something in Aion. Thats it. I enjoy sub base or B2P games much more.

  49. Why are the editorials on MMOBomb always so god damn trite and basic? The controversy around free-to-play games has been around so much longer than you rubes give it credit for and that might be why every statement you make on the subject is just barely scratching the surface of a debate that’s been rung around many times before.

    Yes, free-to-play games aren’t free! What a shockingly cruel world we live in!

    • I agree when it comes to ‘ it’s been a debate that’s been rung around many times before.’, but it’s a debate which can go long into oblivion and is hard to do more than scratch the surface of such a thing in one article. By playing the game you are giving your support to the entire staff that help make and continue to expand said game, and if you really truly enjoy the game it never hurts to chip in a few bucks.

    • This, just so much this.

      Honestly, this article felt more insulting than informative. Yes, this demographic of people exists and yes they can be a bit annoying, but not all of this demographic are like that. Like Kess, I couldn’t afford to pay for free to play games, it was out of my budget. But what I could do to support them was advertize the game to friends who COULD possibly pay for it. The point of free to play games is accessibility, making the price barrier non-existent to maximize traffic and thus, increase the rate of paying players entering the game.

      To keep it brief, Jason Winter, I do appreciate your hard work, but you may have strayed logically from this argument a bit and made me a bit uncomfortable about your work. Not everyone who doesn’t pay is a jerk who refuses because it’s a free game, some of us have standards on what we believe DESERVES our money and others simply have more important things on their budget than temporary ubergun gun from Generic Free Shooter Number 468 like for instance… FOOD or ELECTRICITY maybe?

    • But to be honest the free players are the ones who started the war.

      They’d go into these games not wanting to pay, and then they’d be upset at the people who were paying for one reason or another. Sometimes they were jealous of what the people had, a majority of the time it was that the game had poor design and let the paying players “pay to win” (which isn’t the paying players fault, it’s the fault of the companies running the game that way).

      So the free players started to call the paying players names “Cashers” became a negative term they tried to use as an insult. We got scolded and yelled at and called all sorts of names for being paying players, and yet all the while we were really the ones keeping the game there and keeping it free for the free players to play. So yes, we got sick of it. We got sick of being called names and insulted just for being the ones supporting the game. So we started to fire back.

      I often call the free players leeches, as they are very much like leeches. Sure, the game company may have stuck it’s arm out and said “Suck away boys!” but a lot of these people have plenty of money and just refuse to pay and support a game they like (when supporting it is what keeps it around and brings in new content, so they’re just leeching the system). And they like to call people who do pay “stupid” and other names.

      Poor game design that has pay to win mechanics is what made the free players get the most nasty – though a lot of jealous players were already getting mean towards paying players just for appearance upgrades they’d get (On some free games that didn’t have pay to win things, I’d be called a “show off” just for wearing cash shop clothes and hair etc by some free players).

      You may think you’re just being insulted for no reason but the truth is the insults you are hearing are just the paying players firing back. The free players started the war of words.

      There definitely are some paying players who only pay to get ahead and to try to feel superior too. These aren’t the players who spend a few hundred dollars on a game though, these are people who spend literally thousands to beef up and then become near invincible in the games. They’ve done nothing to earn it and I understand that’s frustrating but we should just leave the games then rather than complain and call them names. They’re just following the goofy game rules the way some company decided to make them.

      A huge amount of imported games from Southeast Asia are pay to win. I just hope we can all stop calling each other names and stand together against game systems like that instead. Every new game I go on the players keep the name calling going though.

      If it’s a brand new server and you’re just buying new stuff, lots of free players piss and moan about you doing it.

      And I’ll always nag back at the leechers, because they’re only able to be there leeching because of people like me who do pay. And when they complain that I’m paying, that really is very irksome.

      • I CANNOT AFFORD to pay you insensitive shit. If I had the money, I would gladly pay (and man would I love to buy some Aion cash shop items). But I don’t have money so I can’t.

        Shitting on me and grouping me with people who are jerks will only make you look like a massive, whiny ass. I will take advantage of any free entertainment I can get, because being an adult sucks and sometimes I need a break from real life.


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