Vote For Your Favorite Games in the Ultimate F2P Showdown!

Michael Dunaway
By Michael Dunaway, News Editor

It's time to fill out your bracket – no, not for basketball, for video games! And with this one, you'll get to pick the winners!

We've selected and seeded 64 of the top free-to-play games in existence and need you to let us know which is the best. Several times a week, we'll open up voting for a bloc of match-ups, leaving it up to you, the community to determine who moves on to glory and who is relegated to the digital scrap heap.

The games in our brackets were selected and seeded based on their relative popularity and activity level. We intentionally left off games that have shut down or that have seen minimal support by the developers recently (like Tribes: Ascend) or are in the process of shutting down (Free Realms was on the list when we conceived of it in mid-January – oops) and while we do have a few games on the list that are technically in beta (like SMITE and Hearthstone), we aren't including games that aren't widely available for free yet (sorry EverQuest Next Landmark – maybe next year!).

And if you don't like where your game is seeded? Vote for it! It's not where you start, but where you finish that matters. I think John Wooden said that...

The Final Confrontation: SMITE vs. Warframe

(voting ends Monday, April 7 at 1 p.m. PDT)

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Michael Dunaway
Michael Dunaway, News Editor
Michael Dunaway has been part of the MMOBomb team for years and has covered practically every major Free-to-Play MMO title since 2009.

Discussion (1358)

JustinBoomer 9 years ago
Pirate101 & Wizard101 still the best (pirate101 & wizard doesn't win) best next champion would be Age of Wulin or World Tour Fishing! wizard101 have gotten better with there spell because of shadow magic (no game) spell of shadow (shadow best part in game much as vampire)

would who win vs Death Wizard with Shadow Magic vs Vampire vs Witchdoctor vs Blissful Valley

least pirate101 & wizard101 catch up level better runes of magic (quit from runes of magic because they stealer) star wars was boring to much option! wizard101 & pirate101 more better because better tutorial!

Harlan 9 years ago
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Oghmanas 9 years ago
I don't get it. So who frikin' won?

Neo 9 years ago

Justin 9 years ago
don't care about these others stupid games! any game win (NOT BEST) because people play stupid fighting like war of worldcraft (spongebob is annoying winning every kids choice awards! made own contest!

make bet make better then MMOBOOM!

people like these stupid game (just stupid fighting game) no talent (bet wizard class & pirate beat class of these others game are Hypocrites and other shits!

RWBY 9 years ago
I don't agree with Path of Exile being a winner its boring as hell don't see how its lasted this long to be honest even diablo 3 is way better than that pong is better

Nyeh 9 years ago

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Nyeh 9 years ago
My Opinion Of The Best Game Is 1st:MapleStory
2nd: Minecraft
4th Super Hexagon
5th Ace Of Spades
6th Terraria

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EmeDLancer 9 years ago

Xyrrhen 9 years ago
Ehm, Who won? Smite or Warframe? The results would be on 7th of April and it is 9th... :S

helloma186126 9 years ago
vote for my favorite warframe

TennoSKOOOM! 9 years ago
Voting has ended, but where are the results?

akira(mabi) 9 years ago
just cuz warframe won on this site does mean they can win on others failframe

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TIRAPATH 9 years ago

я голосую за warframe я играю с самого начала в эту игру,практически с первого дня!!! 9 years ago
я голосую за warframe потому что играю в эту игру с самого начала и знаю все ее плюшки,и игра мне нравится!!!!!

LolMaplestory 9 years ago
How Maplestory even got past the first round is beyond my understanding.

Someone 9 years ago
Warframe has got to win, its an incredible game considering its f2p, better than most games ive paid for :l

Detective_Nob_Gobler 9 years ago
Yeah warframe, everything my inner child loves. ninjas, explosions, robots, blood, guns, blades, space, more guns and magic.

Joakoo58 9 years ago

BoombTeam 9 years ago
First One Team! 9 years ago
smite not bring anything new, stupid moba like plenty of others.

Rocka 9 years ago
Warframe by far...

trams87 9 years ago
I vote for Warframe. 9 years ago
Leveling in warframe is super fast and game is very easy, waiting for next update , maybe then game becomes chalanging. 9 years ago
smite is Another generic shit moba, everyting u do is stupid pve and pvp always same. there is zero rpg elements. I better vote for warframe, great design with new ideas and can play free easy and good rpg elements , u lvling ur character and becoming stronger, u can make weapons stronger also, there is no pay to win stuff or subscription.

Warframe FTW 9 years ago
no way in hell SMITE can edge over warframe

Duke 9 years ago
I like Warframe but it DOES take a while to level up....

Gyronex 9 years ago
Good to know that Nexon's players are being sore losers about Mabinogi's loss.
Check the Twitter MMOBomb page concerning SMITE vs. Warframe. It shows the amount of votes and the percentage for each side.

SMITE is winning at the moment.

luchosam 9 years ago
La verdad evalue todos los juego y warframe ganara , creo q seria injusto si no gana ,por q la calidad de imagen q tiene es espectacular , la forma como une a todo el mundo , los trades y las batallas , aparte siempre esta actualizando y sacando buffs de errores , asi q voto por warframe !!

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Creasyls 9 years ago
So, will be an Livestream from this ultimate final fight tonight ?

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Sol 9 years ago
How on Auraxis Planetside2 get less votes than Mabinogi?! Cheese us! Three forces must've been busy fighting...

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KainDarkfire 9 years ago
By the way, how was the seeding figured? Funny how all of the 3rd seeds made it to semi-finals ('cept Mabinogi at 13th)

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Craig 9 years ago
Voting for Warframe

MMO Guy 9 years ago
What it will come down to is how much of Warframe's vote percentage was anti-Mabinogi. If the significant majority of it's vote was actually Warframe fans voting for their game, then I don't see how they can lose.

But what if not? Of the folks that voted against Mabinogi rather than for Warframe there are basically two groups:

- The ones who hate Mabinogi and voted for Warframe because of it. But will they still come out and support them against SMITE? Well maybe we'll have to see.
- The other group would be SMITE fans and Path of Exile fans who voted for Warframe because they'd rather have to face Warframe than Mabinogi.

Now if Warframe beat Mabinogi because of SMITE voting for them and then now ends up losing to SMITE. Then SMITE definitely deserves to win this contest. Because although that would've been a sneaky thing to do, it was in fact totally legal and so I'd say "Well Played!"

WarframeWillWin 9 years ago
So yea Warframe is gonna win.... dont even bother trying to fight it :)

Carnal 9 years ago
Sorry guys from Warframe, but you just ruined your game in my eyes.
How you have been reacting to this tournament is just shamefull and you should just be ashamed of yourself.

Graphics in general don't matter aslong as you can enjoy the game. If you push away a game for graphics, you're being a gamer for the wrong reasons. If your game developers would read this, they would really hit them selves in the face for how you guys are reacting to this.

You can argue that some games were being bribed, they weren't. They were more celebrations for getting this far. If the players of some games were actually being bribed, the rewards would be more insane. For example really expensive stuff that is rare. A event being held is not a bribe. Learn the difference between being bribed and celebrating stuff.

Personally, I write game off due their communities and this is clearly a case for me that I would not be part of a community like that. The same for some other games that have been in this contest. I regret showing supporting some of the games in the previous rounds because I know that some of my friends play these games. But damn.. Do I regret voting for some of those games. If I knew that the community was like this behind some of the games here.

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я голосую за warframe я играю с самого начала в эту игру,практически с первого дня!!! 9 years ago
я голосую за warframe/я с самого начала с этой игрой и уже привык к ней!!!

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Ted 9 years ago

UcHiHaMaDarA 9 years ago
mabinogi ????????? is this a joke to compare this game to others games ??

Zealot 9 years ago
I'd say Warframe should win because its one of my most favorite F2P games and it has a unique theme to the game and you can go in and use different strategys and see how it plays out and it also has the feature of Alerts where you can get rare items and fun stuff its just a fun little add on that really brings the game out. So overall i would say Warframe would win.

Incredible Mr.E 9 years ago
Warframe FTW!!!!!

the winner 9 years ago
screw you guys and you cheating dev we got free V.I.P on mabinogi muahahahahahah (it means we get a lot of free stuff)

AlXD 9 years ago
i'm voting for warframe for sure

mabiwhat 9 years ago
no offense. looked up some vids. why would anyone play mabinogi, looks like ass..... 0/10 would lulz again.

Aeden 9 years ago
Honestly I'm surprised SMITE made it to the finals.

May the best F2P win.

Alex 9 years ago
i vote warframe because its has awsome graphics and gameplay and of course its 3D,i see graphics and gameplay of smite its though but i dont really like smite even my cousin dont like it so i vote warframe

Rhino Master Race 9 years ago
Hail kickbot!

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A concerned Citizen 9 years ago
How did smite beat anything? Is Hi rez offering like... Free everything?

Inb4 hi rez drops this IP like tribes.

R-kamikaze 22 9 years ago
My vote it for warframe !!

Blood King 9 years ago
Love both smite and warframe but I got to lean more to warframe, bad part about moba's is a lot of people don't feel like they are making any progress. Also warframe has almost 8m accounts so ya.............

Dexaldem 9 years ago
Wow....blind the votes. MMOBomb, i'm sorry, but that's just being a D**cheCanoe.

Stonehenge 9 years ago
Really MMOBOMB...... Blinding the vote when none of the votes have been blind the entire competition. This is well BS.

sebastian christensen 9 years ago

Lord Matt XLVIII 9 years ago
You just gotta love the comparison of mabinogi vs. Literally anyone and this lastmatchup. The mabinogi people(mostly) acted like typical crazy internet people while everyone else kind of just didn't really give a shit.

AussieOIOIOI 9 years ago

riskoslo 9 years ago
fu*k smite, warframe all the way!

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H4TE 9 years ago
Smite is going the distance.

Heatmetal 9 years ago
I just can't believe TF2 lost to Maplestory .-.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
I wonder if instead they'd just made one poll with 64 radio buttons :) and left it open say 1 week. I wonder how that would've gone. No assist voting, no spite voting, no strategic voting. Plurality wins.

Gecko-Steack 9 years ago
Fuxk you! Mabinogi!

Fuxk you! Devcat!

HMV 9 years ago
Oh well last post here
If u guys want to chill add me on mabi
IGN mabigaurdian
Server Mari
Good luck 2 both games
Mabi's weird wiki remembering braniact out

johann 9 years ago
I bet you that Mabinogi is going to win

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johann 9 years ago
Mabinogi is so going to win

A Lone Tenno 9 years ago
Warframe had more votes to win against mabinogi than the entire Smite vs PoE poll..

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akira(mabi) 9 years ago
i hope you guys lose and ill laugh when you do

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akira(mabi) 9 years ago
the character creation is crap the game play is crap the game can go burn

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
Congratulations to Warframe for moving on to the finals. Hopefully, the anyone-but-Mabinogi folks will still be there to vote for you against SMITE. Good Luck.

akira(mabi) 9 years ago
wow warframe won cuz of botting crappy game wins by botting voting for smite

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Neutral Warrior 9 years ago
To all the kids crying about "warframe jumped X votes ermargerd..." don't forget it has an active 8 million player base, we don't even need bribes or cheats to win this thing.

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Stonehenge 9 years ago
It seems Mabinogi is making a late push. Will it be enough? 100 minutes left and roughly 6500 votes to catch up. Will the space ninjas hold the line or collapse in defeat? Find out in 100 minutes....

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Fidens Libertas 9 years ago
Smite vs Path of Exile has little over 20000 votes.
Mabinogi vs Warframe has almost 80000 votes and are near the 50% line each.

by my math whichever loses in the Mabinogi vs warframe poll already has more votes than the Smite vs Path of Exile poll combine and thus is more deserving of second place.

well that’s just my opinion anyway.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Well according to MMOBomb at twitter, there's very little cheating that they can detect. So I predict that not only will Warframe win this entire contest they're gonna totally destroy SMITE; embarrass them really.

I do hope however, that MMOBomb is checking out voting per domain as well (not just proxy domains but plain old service providers) and comparing that with how those domains voted in previous polls and seeing if there are any notable increases from the domain as an entirety. Because you don't need to grab unique I.P's from proxy sites you can just keep resetting your dynamic I.P. and use your own service providers domain.

kyoyen 9 years ago
so apparently the warframe people didnt learn from ragnarok crowd to not cheat their votes. mabi was ahead last night by 5 or 6% and after less then 7 hours they have jumped up and im seeing 10 to 20 votes coming in every 5 seconds.

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Fidens Libertas 9 years ago
Smite vs Path of Exile has little over 20000 votes.
Mabinogi vs Warframe has almost 80000 votes and are near the 50% line each.

by my math whichever loses in the Mabinogi vs warframe poll already has more than the Smite vs Path of Exile poll combine and thus is more deserving of second place.

well that's just my opinion anyway.

Dexaldem 9 years ago
Oh you noticed too? i noticed RO and Mabi fans screaming at each other for botting. i'm getting a little suspicious of the Mabi guys right now, no offense. could they possibly be trying to disqualify Warframe...? I'm hopelessly lost here. :|-

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Dexaldem 9 years ago
Is anyone else seeing the vote count go up by 3 to 10 per second for the Mabinogi Vs Warframe poll?

Anon 9 years ago
There was like 30,000 votes the first two days and now there's 6,000 votes in an hour? Come on someone is obviously botting and it sure isn't Mabi.

Taco 9 years ago
Regardless of whether Warframe, Mabinogi, Smite, or Path of Exile wins this, the only loser is...

AirMech. I mean, really, James? Accusing Mabinogi of cheating and unfair play, then encouraging EXACTLY THAT out of spite? I believed in you guys. I got into AirMech when it was still in alpha. I put money into AirMech because I liked what Carbon was doing and I loved Herzog Zwei. But s is just sad.

Let the communities be the ones to make asses of themselves. DON'T BE THE ASS.

Carramell 9 years ago
I don't understand how Warframe made it so far. It is the most pay to win game I have ever played. Yeah, it was fun, but I just couldn't handled the grinding required to build any weapon and then see a friend of mine spend a few dollars and have 3 different warframes and allot more weapons. If there was a better balance, I would have no problem with Warframe getting this far, but as it stands, Warframe is tilted to far on the pay to win side.

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Dexaldem 9 years ago
Warframe hasn't bribed its players EVER. xD

Secondly, we have a big update coming out some time soon that Digital Extremes has been working on for over a month. Right Around the Corner is now their trademark i think. :|-

Lastly, I can't say i would vote for ANY game that bribes its players. especially when Nexon America shut down DFO those years ago, which was the ONLY game they had that I enjoyed playing. and no, I'm not going to complaing about botters. it's useless drama, and such effort in complaining about botters can be spent better elsewhere.

Lastly, to be fair, i tried out Mabinogi, and my computers did not like it very much. when i DID get it working, i just couldn't get myself into it. Warframe took me some time to get used to as well, and i personally enjoy how Digital Extremes respects their game and their community.

I do however wonder if the Lotus has seen this yet. :|-

XKagetora 9 years ago
Fellow Militians and friends do not give up. Keep the legitimate votes coming in. We will pull forward and we shall be victorious! May the Dagger be knocked away with our sword of valor.

Stonehenge 9 years ago
Mabinogi The Royal Queen of the Tenno, Megan has come forth and notified the Tenno of the need for help on the main page and in the in-game news. I am willing to bet the votes are about to skyrocket. Since this is now acknowledged by the Dev team. Still no rewards or anything btw. This may be the dagger. Good competition you all.

Yuikami 9 years ago
Warframe! Fun Gameplay being space ninjas fighting as interesting and full of story enemies! Great community! Updates Every week! Lovely and caring Developer team that always help out our problems and try to make the game better! SUPER responsive customer service! Awesome events that everyone can enjoy! How can you not vote for this Q>w< Go Warframe! Go!

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Well now it's like a real election. Since we don't know what the true totals are now, we have to wait until the poll closes.

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Stonehenge 9 years ago
Oh my these haymakers hurt alot..... and still no bribe from Warframe. Guess that stands for something......still 6 hrs to go though

never 9 years ago
Semi-final #2: Mabinogi vs. Warframe

Bribing the player base of FIVE games against one is probably gonna get them disquallified, even if DE releases some tasty loot for us if we win its still FIVE games versus 1

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Deathglaive 9 years ago

ihateyousometimes 9 years ago
well i know that Planetside 2 is definitely an mmo, no doubt, im just sad it didnt make it to the finals

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Well it looks like Warframe's overnight bot is back at it again tonight. It's slowly eating away Mabinogi's lead. So if Mabinogi is using a bot then Warframe is using a better one.

Woffers 9 years ago
look at that Mabinogi number its way to high to be legit plus warframe is newer and better.

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
Well what has MMOBomb themselves said about it. Eventually, they said that multiple voting was basically a no no but it took several rounds for them to get to it and kinda make it clear. This contest has been going on now for over a month. They have said nothing about rewards being a no no. If Nexon is the only company doing so, it probably means that it's the only company that actually gives a damm about winning this.

In one of the other contests there was a fan (just a guy) who offered prizes from his own personal in-game virtual property if folks would vote for his game. Frankly, that was awesome. Seriously that is an uber-fan.

John 9 years ago
Just a thought, if it's the "best" F2P game<giving something out for helping your game become number one would be great for new players at the time or players that just need a little pick me up, I play warframe on PS4 but mabi gets my vote I like my mabi better that's all the "events" they are doing is just a bonus but heck i like that.

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
I think it was Errol Flynn that said, "There's no such thing as good publicity or bad publicity, there's just publicity". It would not surprise me one bit if the games involved in the more contentious contests have, of course, received more publicity but also I suspect they probably have also had a spike in new account creation.

Wow... 9 years ago
Well, the goal of this poll was to get exposure, and Nexon is certainly succeeding. I don't think it is very much GOOD exposure, as their... methods... are questionable, and appear rather pathetic.

Several Mabi players themselves are ashamed of what Nexon is doing, so it isn't just some biased opinion. It really does look pathetic, and it reflects on them.

Personally, this just solidifies that I am NEVER going back to any of my Nexon accounts. Good god, talk about putting a bitter taste in your mouth.

Congrats on the over-exposure. Cover up a little. ;)

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
I hope your right about that. I suspect that this time around MMOBomb has decide that maybe keeping a tight lip until the poll is over would be best. So, we'll just have to wait and see what they say after the poll has closed.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
You'd think that Nexon would've called its legions of bribed fans for Maplestory, yet that didn't happen.

It seems pretty obvious that there is a bot voting for Mabinogi. What isn't obvious is the motive of the botter.

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XKagetora 9 years ago
Pretty funny to me is that its ok for Airmech to support Warframe but it is wrong for Nexon to support its own game

HMV 9 years ago
If RO and others vote for warframe then nexon NA and KR can vote for mabi i don't see that worldwide votes are banned cause I got mabi pen pals in KR helping us... Well the 1s that know English :/

Carnal 9 years ago
Enough about the Nexon bribing the other games to vote.
Mabinogi is the only one of their games that made it THIS far. Its logical that Nexon is trying to get support from the others as we all will be winners. Not just Mabinogi. Other games have been bribing as well and gathering support from other sources.

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Red 9 years ago
They might want to change Warframe V Mabinogi to Warframe V Nexon since they are bribing games also made by Nexon to fuel the votes js

Gyronex 9 years ago
Pretty sad to see Mabinogi winning against Warframe. Mabinogi is NOT a popular game, nor is it a great game at all. Not "Best F2P" material, yet Nexon is bribing all of its players in Vindictus, Maplestory, Atlantica, and Dungeon Fighters to vote for Mabinogi. This is just on top of the bots voting.

Digital Extremes' mistake is not advertising. Instead of posting the Grate Prime for an April Fool's joke, they should've posted about this contest on the front page.

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wow... 9 years ago
wtf nexon, bribing every single game with events under your company to vote for mabi?
i'm a mabi player and i'm ashamed

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
It would appear that maybe someone has started a bot for Mabinogi now. :(

XHeros 9 years ago
fun games

ZTFallen 9 years ago
No one told anything about the Path of Exile vs League of Legends?

MMO Guy 9 years ago
I hope this time around that when analyzing the poll data MMOBomb doesn't simply look at individual I.P.s, but also checks the number of votes per domain, even otherwise innocent domains. I would hope their software can do this too. It would be interesting if say a particular service provider in previous polls had only say a few hundred votes with each I.P. voting 1 to 4 times and if now a huge chunk of the service providers available I.P. s are now registered as having voted and each of course 4 times, for totals in the thousands. I wonder if that might be happening at all.

Stonehenge 9 years ago
Go Warframe!
The Tenno army must show its strength to defeat Mabinogi.
Have to say this battle is intense. Nearly 30k votes so far and it is not even half way done. Shout out to both games' respective communities for showing their support.

ULTRAxXx 9 years ago
BOOYAH XDDDD alright warframe lets BRING IT HOME XDDDD

Darvo's Girlfriend 9 years ago
My vote for Warframe.

SM 9 years ago
Go Warframe, GO!

Sori 9 years ago
Smite vs Path of Exile 5000 votes
Mabinogi vs Warframe 16000 votes

clearly Mabinogi or Warframe is going to beat this competition

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HMV 9 years ago
Let's go mabi we are losing

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Z-Sync 9 years ago
Warframe ftw

thunderdragon 9 years ago
I am a fan of both mabi and warframe but has anyone other then me noticed the mabi and warframe pole? atm there seams to be a steading incline in votes for warframe at 10 votes every second. to top on that and im not trying to give mabi the edge but before this the poles where almost perfectly even. so this seams like there is cheating going on again for the poles. and its clear mabi has no motivation to cheat since they are not getting anything this time for wining from the looks of there site.

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sebastian 9 years ago
warframe is just awesome

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MABINOGIBESTGAMEEVAR 9 years ago 9 years ago
mabigogi WHAT A SHIT what pedobears vote for that crap from 1995 year with half naked kids and baloon like mobs

Thunderdragon 9 years ago
i don't know if anyone is noticing this but in the past 20 to 30 min warframe is starting to skyrocket in votes. to me it just looks like what RO was doing but the amount of votes that are coming in right now is rising and fast from them.

Aether 9 years ago
Anyone else think Warframe and Mabinogi's poll is a bit off? Mabinogi was winning 89:11 when suddenly every minute 100 votes went for Warframe and now they are pulling past mabinogi....

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Magma 9 years ago
a'right, now let's hope SMITE gets the living crap kicked out of it and a GL to PoE, Mabi and Warframe

donkeyshow 9 years ago
My current character on mabinogi alexina server is 3 years old IRL. Total level is over 1600, total skill points spent is over 4000, i have over 30 pets and can fight/play ANYWHERE in the game with a weird combination of ease and also challenge. I've spent a total of zero real money, and never: go broke, run out of quests(something else to do) and i estimate i could spend another 5 years just on this character. Pay to win is quite laughable (unless your playing face"book" games). Besides trumping that argument, i have seen very little complaints from mabi players about mabi... but i've noticed these other game's players have no complaints? seems a bit bias, but that's normal for a medium with open ended statements that get posted to a message board.

may Mabinogi be the victor!!!! (we deserve it most)

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Rashikel 9 years ago

Sora 9 years ago
In my opinion, non if these games should be out of the contest, because there is also honest votes, so...we should only count the honest ones.

and also...the mabinogi community is made of veterans and players of over the all damn world, so they rule with majority of honest votes.

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sp4rtan148 9 years ago
AirMech is bribing their players with an excalibur prime helmet if they win, warframe needs to win because of this.

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Finnick 9 years ago
Where is DOTA 2?
Definetely one of the best F2P's in the world

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Meow 9 years ago
I can honestly say that Mabinogi probably doesn't deserve this spot, neither does RO. Coming from someone who's played Mabinogi when G1 was around I can't help but warn people when coming to this game. It's a great game and all, however the company is shit and the way they run things is mediocre at best.

Keep in mind this is from a fp2 aspect, meaning that some of these cons are generally good, but not for what this showdown is for:

Mabinogi is a fantasy-life game where you roll a character that partakes in Generations/Sagas. There are currently 17generations and a few installments of Sagas. Or in other terms lengthy storylines. The storyline is fantastic considering that this is a f2p showdown.

There are 3-races; Human, Elf, and Giant.

- Humans are the jack-of-all trades. They are average/above-average at everything but - No, this will be explained further.

+ Has two transformation paths
+ Has access to most core weapons in-game
+ Has access to most of the top-tier skills
+ In general trump Elves in archery
= Depending on what skills you work on you will need to rely on mass reforges in order to be accepted to do anything later on
- Slow movement speed

- Elves are the magic/ranged-specialized race. They're supposed to be the go-to card for magic and archery, however Elves get very little benefits.

+ Fastest movement speed of available races
+ Shoots two arrows
- Archery requires dexterity, elves are penalized heavily when dealing with passives like Heavy Armor mastery & Light Armor Mastery
- Weaker, squishier in general
- Required more SP to rank skills in general
- Compared to the other two, no real benefits for ranking skills out of the threshold for elves
- No real benefits and reasons to main
- Reforges are absolutely required if you don't want to be ridiculed and kicked from every mission that's worth running.

- Giants are the steady walls. Their defense is unmatched and their DPS is arguably the best. By far the most promising race to maintain and play as if you're looking for strict DPS for little risk.

+ Giants have access to the most STR given skills in-game
+ Giants(and humans) aren't exactly penalized severely with Heavy Armor Mastery as apposed to Elves
+ Giants have a skill that literally hooks them down, decreasing damage by vast amounts
+ Reforges are completely optional, but they do tend to scale way higher
= Balanced movement speed between the three races
- No access to ranged skills other than the outdated and forgotten Throwing Attack

Reforges are the staple of the game's damage once your skills reach their limit. Be prepared to spend insane amounts of money or be prepared to bot/abuse events to the extreme in order to afford buying them off players.

Rebirthing is a unique aspect of Mabinogi. When you rebirth your level and exploration level, along with the stats you've gained will reset. However you'll keep the Ability Points you've earned in that previous rebirth and all the stats you've obtained from ranking skills.

* The limit to rebirthing is once per week, technically 6days-6days 1hour ($7.90 cash, $9.80 event)
* The limit to rebirthing is once per 3 weeks(free)

Needless to say if you spend cash then you are going to get the major step ahead as apposed to free rebirthing. Currently Mabinogi Korea has free rebirthing weekly, but another foreign Mabinogi server is forced to wait 3weeks(?) Mabinogi North America is still unconfirmed for which Rebirth update we'll be receiving.

- Gachapons are extremely outdated and offer possibly the biggest scams of all.

I understand. You risk, you fail, suck it up. However, if you pay $1.50 wouldn't you expect something more than 3-5 measly potions that aren't even specialized to heal more than 2% of your health mid-game?

Feel free to take a look into the abyss of horribly rigged gachapon in this thread:!%26nxid%3D10

Read the comments, read what the community has to say. People spend more money on these gachapons compared to Guild Wars 2 and get absolutely nothing. Is this F2P enough for you?

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
Someone in one of these threads said that MMOBomb said that during the Mabinogi vs Rangnarok poll that of all the votes mabinogi got 30,000 or of them were legitimate. Perhaps, there's a bot at work here but the fact is these number are not unusual for the kinds of numbers Mabinogi can muster without cheating.

Remember this poll doesn't determine what the best game is
it doesn't determine what the largest fan-base is
it doesn't even determine what the best fan base is
it just shows which was able to get the most amount of people to bother to come to this website and click a few buttons.

XHeros 9 years ago
So quiet now that the RO vs Mabi conflict is over OwO

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LittleShii 9 years ago
I don't believe mabinogi is botting, I was on today and had 5 different people come up to me on different channels saying :
"Hey - uhm ma'am , Have you voted on MMObomb yet? :)"

People are campaigning like crazy.

And even if they were botting , You don' think mmobomb would find out and fix the results just like this did with RO.

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Rolfski 9 years ago
The vote count in the Mabinogi vs. PlanetSide 2 is going up at a constant rate of 1 vote / 2 seconds. It is obviously being botted.

No poll from is valid. Go to the page in incognito mode. Vote. Tap refresh. Vote again. Repeat ad infinitum.

Jared 9 years ago
These polls are obviously being voted on by a total of five people.

LD115 9 years ago
See, out of the Planetside 2 community, very few even knew of the existence of this. The dev team didn't even know until just 10 hours ago. As soon as we caught wind of this against Mabinobi, that's when PS2 went to town. A tweet to our main dev's page made him use his twitter and our votes have been thrown in since.

It's funny how once we got to our current percent, we haven't risen since despite how many votes have been cast. kinda suspicious that a crappy looking MMO like Mabinobi would all of a sudden take interest only after PS2 players started voting...

Deyuaru 9 years ago
I think F2P games should be good in these aspects :

- Community (the hardest part since you can't make the players become positive or not rude)
- Customer Service (for cashers)
- Updates Frequency and Effectivity
- Developers' Enthusiasm (EverQuest NEXT Landmark for an example)
- Content (not too much grinding and monthly events are important)
- Graphic (must sync perfectly with the theme of the game)

(Show your care to your players/ customers or they will stop playing.)

Random Guy 9 years ago
we will know when the competition is over if Mabinogi is Botting or not and in Twitter MMOBOMB said that Mabinogi Votes were honest with few bot votes mostly from RO Bots Farmer to try DQ us or some Mabinogi Players(under 1 digit numbers) that feel like we need some extra vote

and for Planetside 2 or Smite

i just say i dislike Online FPS Games for few reasons:

1)Hack,Hack and Hack!!! in any online fps games i played is always filled with hackers

2)Pay To Win Weapons from Cash Shop, hate it so much when we(me and the enemy) use the same weapon but his do double of dmg and have double of munitions

3)Bad Community, people that kick "good" players from room and only allow roockies to join the enemy sides, or players that insult/flame each other when they're losing, or just player that leave from the match just because they have 1 noob in team

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Rawwrr 9 years ago
Honestly, disqualifications are not fair in this case. Just think about it, what if it's not just mabi or ro players botting it could be other games trying to DQ both games. So please stop saying a game should be disqualified for botting when you have no proof whatsoever that they are boting.

Also, there is nothing wrong with bribing. For example Mabinogi uses 3x AP as a bribe, the only people who would really care about that is the people who plays Mabinogi. I mean just because they bribed it doesn't mean other games would vote for them too, that reward is for only one game which means only Mabinogi players would want to vote for it. It won't benefit any other games except Mabinogi.

Think of it as a reward for supporting your game.

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akira(mabi) 9 years ago
mabinogi is not botting and also i never heard of planetside 2 and its been out since 2012 and the character creation is not very good when your ten your not cute when your 16 your not cute in mabinogi you can be 10 and cute and 16 and be cute just becuz your losing doesnt give you the right say were botting or anything just means more people like this game more so pleaz stop saying mabinogi is botting its going start this whole reset over and over again thank and good night

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Starlight~ 9 years ago
The Mabinogi Vs PlanetSide 2 vote kinda makes me sad. I've never played PlanetSide 2 but I've heard it is a seriously fantastic game and even though I from the start assumed we would lose against them I still vote for my game. Come to find, shockingly enough, that Mabinogi is wining by a long shot. And as much as I want to believe it's because Mabi "is the better game" i can honestly say I don't feel that's true. I really can't say for real because i have no idea myself, but I would be really sad to find out that a mass of our votes are indeed bots. I rather have us lose fair and square, then act like we win and then lose because someone is ruining it for all of us.
I also want to say sorry to the community of PlanetSide 2 because I've heard that both sides have been bashing each other, possibly Mabi doing the bashing more so. Not all of us want to be rude, we just want to support our game and it's sad how its gotten out of hand for some. Also, sorry and great job to RO for giving us a fight for our life! I kinda wish we would lose so our forums and game life can calm back down. Good Luck everyone!

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scott 9 years ago
Planetside 2 and warframe!

Badsystem 9 years ago
Seems like the amount of bot votes here is extremly high.
very small games and unknown games winning against big ones were the community actual goes for it and votes...look at this Ma... game just >.<

TheSituation 9 years ago
Y'all need a life, son

BlueberryFrutishake 9 years ago
Mabinogi vs. PlanetSide is rigged. The Mabinogi side is being vote-bot spammed, hence why they are leading by 84% even with a lot of PS2 players voting.

Just checked the vote counter, 600 for Mabinogi in the last 10 mins. Definitely vote-botting

XKagetora 9 years ago
Lets vote to the path of Victory our fellow Millitians! :D

msxp123 9 years ago
Airmech is getting destroyed! Go warframe!

dynamics 9 years ago
Yay, Mabi :D

Jeanette 9 years ago
Mabinogi is the best!(:

Airmech is Awesome 9 years ago
> Smite has barely 200 players
> More than 10,000 votes.
> Smite is cheating

I hope Maplestory wins because smite nothing but a crowd of cheaters and hackers.

I want the final to be either Maplestory vs Airmech | Path of Exile vs Airmech | Planet Slide vs Airmech

Go Airmech!

Moredai 9 years ago
So I notice that there have been no comments regarding the results of Mabinogi vs. Ragnarok Online. I'm personally glad Mabinogi won because of how great and unique the game is. I don't think we'll be able to eliminate planetside2, but I'm glad we got this one. I'm ashamed that either side cheated, but at least the better game won. Best of luck to all the remaining games.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
- Hobbles up on crutches after the R/M broohaha
- Recalls how the votes climbed in that race
- Checks the stats on the MS v SMITE
- sees total votes = 13k
- notes poll opened more than a day ago
- sees the familiar arguments in the thread being repeated
- shakes head in disbelief
- hobbles out the door

Jambie 9 years ago
They don't even have that many people playing the game.

That guy
March 23, 2014 at 11:55 am

61% of about 50,000 is over 30,000 votes. Are we expected to believe that RO got over 30,000 votes in two days through legitimate reasons?

Opress43184 9 years ago
This is no use, MMOBomb will always help and support SMITE even if they are cheating. They will never recount votes or redo the poll like they did with RO/MABI because SMITE is their own game!

This is lame, this is a fallacy. MMOBomb tricked us all, i feel like an idiot seriously.


Colton 9 years ago
SMITE and MMOBomb are working together


Please support that twitter hashtag and raise awarness.

This competition is made up. SMITE is cheating and MMOBomb allows it.

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aussiebob 9 years ago
I guess if Bots/Hacks/whatever are being used to artificially increase the vote counts for one game or another in this Battle then MMObomb SHOULD be doing something about it. Sitting on their hands & allowing this sort of activity only promotes it's use in other things like games {Lets face it hacks & Bots destroy so many games it's not funny}

So here is hoping that it isn't allowed to continue because it is wrecking a Poll/Battle that a LOT of people are having fun being part of, & as the saying goes 1 bit of bad publicity can cost 1000x more than 100 bits of GOOD or POSITIVE publicity & MMObomb have ALWAYS had a good name & rep within the online gaming communities.

Also even if a game does win this by cheating it isn't going to change the fact that it sucks hard if it does, so it is hard to understand what the point is for cheating as when a game sucks hard everyone knows about it by checking out reviews & not just seeing the results of single Poll.

Everyone 9 years ago
SMITE is cheating, they posted compromising stuff in their forums and then when someone exposed them, they edited the post to make it look like it was fake. Way to cheat SMITE, Seriously that is such an stupid offense.

SMITE community is so annoying, they should get disqualified.

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Sooshi 9 years ago
Now that mabi won against RO fair and square, RO prob going to be sour and vote for planetside 2 during next round like the little kids they are.

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Thoruuuuu 9 years ago
Woooooh go Smite~ <3. League of Legends is loosing... that's embarrassing since Smite was pretty much a carbon copy of League's game style and pretty much all of it. But I like them both. Just sad League the original is loosing and Smite is winning . Hm I won't complain go Smite~
Good luck League <3

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Sean 9 years ago
I just came across a post about an MS person photoshoping a smite forum post to make it look like Smite is cheating, lol. Smite has crushed every poll and has had the most over votes in the first 2 rounds, why would this be different? I saw the MS forum accusing Smite, and I saw the original post that was photoshopped. I can't believe people will lie like that over something like this.

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Chris 9 years ago
I find this really pointless, only games that bribe their players and people on this forum actually know about this showdown. I feel if Riot also bribe their players or maybe even tell them about this, LoL will win by far.

Madeof 9 years ago
someone stop this voting already and call maplestory a winner, otherwise this whole showdown is a bunch of botters and doesn't desereve any attention at all. SMITE can never legitly beat maplestroy,
maplestory has over 100mil players worldwide.

LOL 9 years ago
so useless showdown xDD

Pleases 9 years ago
Smite is cheating, here is proof.

Please 9 years ago
SMITE IS CHEATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HERE IS THE PROOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Coolsi 9 years ago
Nikki And Reilly are reetarded, Mabinogi suckks in first place, and SMITE is indeed cheating. The maplestory community is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay bigger than SMITE plus the SMITE forums are not even talking about it.

Someone is voting for SMITE 5 times per second, how is that possible?

fuucck you SMITE

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Reilly 9 years ago
LOL I agree with Nikki. Plus anyone who is watching this so intently needs to go outside more. Lots of people play Mabi and love it. Its only fitting that it would win. I've played all the other MMO games in this poll and still come back to Mabinogi.

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Nikki 9 years ago
Mabi rocks. haha nobodys cheating, the other games just are really lame deal with it.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Although there may be bots working to boost SMITE that doesn;t mean that the SMITE community is responsible for all the cheating. In the Mabinogi -vs- Ragnarok Online poll there was a lot of botting but MMOBomb took that into account. I really think these botters are all the same people who are doing it just to be $hit disturbers, since MMOBomb can detect their cheating and reverse it. The pay-off for them is all the drama they generate in these threads. So, don't feed the trolls.

Safff 9 years ago
RO cheaters deserve it fking losers

Madeof 9 years ago
Maplestory is gonna win this with something like 10k for maplestory against 80k for SMITE, and SMITE DQed.

JKidd 9 years ago
smite is cheating lol they have as many votes as RO in 10 hours MMO better not messup this one

Cyan 9 years ago
Smite is cheating, they are using bots to get more votes.

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Madeof 9 years ago
for some reason, I think SMITE is botting.

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Madeof 9 years ago
for some reason, I think SMITE are botting.

XHeros 9 years ago
Gratz Mabi. Coming out ahead again proving to be a match. Maybe some day more people will appreciate the game for what its worth.

What 9 years ago
SMITE is cheating, there is no way they are getting 10 votes every second. This is unfair stop cheating SMITE, they are using votes against Maplestory.

MMOBomb do something!

Yesua 9 years ago
At the end, i think the fault of all this is the page mmobomb and easypolls, you can clearly read EASYpolls ... but seriously, for my server, i would use easypolls because i don't have a lot of players, just a few, around 40 (server with a few months of life), so i would notice soon if smeone is cheating, BUT NO, mmobom used such site for a great event and they coyldn't do anything at the end... bravo mmobomb & you too EASYpolls ... and for all those comments saying that RO was cheating, well, Mabinogi was doing too,.. just come to think, they (Mabinogi) was cheating more than RO, and controlled the polls for a while, they surely cheated in pro of RO so RO would be dq and they got it... you guys really got pretty fooled by Mabinogi... pay to win Mabinogi, pay to win...

Nonsense 9 years ago
Stop delete my posts please !

87k total votes
54k for Ragnarok & 33k for Mabinogi

Both community are cheaters that's all... this sondage is useless and don't represent the real popularity of any game.

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DrFang 9 years ago
wouldn't it be better to just track the votes by either using a facebook login? or using IP + MAC:ID per computer voting? At least that would simulate one person per vote and this "cheating" nonsense would stop. Just an idea

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Nonsense 9 years ago
Ragnarok Online 62%
Mabinogi 38%
Total votes: 87348

it means 33k votes for Maginogi & 44k votes for Rargnarok... both game cheated not only one
so ridiculous round...

here 9 years ago
wooooo mabi :D

Boxman 9 years ago
In all honesty, I'm gonna support Mabinogi even though they beat us.

Seb 9 years ago
So, is Mabinogi getting disqualified? I don't play either RO or Mabinogi but after I saw the 70k + votes for a community that's fking dead according to their forum traffic compared to the other games we had listed on here, each side shouldn't have had more than 10k votes at the MOST...also IP traffic was indicating the same IP voting 15 times in a row in 1 minute...and some other set of IPs for the other side...I hope the guys from MMOBomb aren't blind like bats and actually get something done right for once.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
While they did say of Mabinogi "we thought the voting was reasonably clean, especially from the Mabinogi fans who had been accused of cheating for several rounds". If this means not much then they mustered an impressive number of legitimate votes. Maybe they won't be the pushover others are claiming they will be.

Unknown 9 years ago
Lmao RO lost while they had more votes than mabinogi I wonder how can it be ... Oh I know that's called being disqualified because they're cheaters :), well now both side cheated but as they chose one, that means we know who cheated the most.

ereH emaN 9 years ago
Let the Sore Winning against Ragnarok commence o3o!
I kid. Don't do it. I'm sure some are going to anyway, but I apologize for them.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
The unadjusted poll results are:

Total 87344
RO 53974
Mab 33370

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Chris 9 years ago
LoL is going to win by far, it is by far the most played game.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
10 minutes to go

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Doh forgot to paste this in:

Total Votes—-81002—85250——4248
Mabi %———-39%—–39%—–(-)0%
R.O Votes—–49411—–52003——2591
Mabi Votes—-31591—–33248——-2591

R.O. has gained by the magnitude of the change in difference when it is -ve
Mabi has gained by the magnitude of the change in difference when it is +ve

Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar

post to approximate the length of the time interval.

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
If we assume that 600 votes in 10 hours rate from yesterday is the average honest vote gain then you'd be pretty close to right.

Ragnarok Online Botter 9 years ago
I'm not surprise. 90% of the Ragnarok Online player base are bots.

Seraphii 9 years ago
I don't think either side should be disqualified just because a few (or many...) people cheated. MMOBomb's twitter clearly shows they can see which IP's have 300+ votes. To disqualify entire games where both sides probably had more legit voters than cheaters seems kind of silly to me.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Total Votes—-70002—81002——11000
Mabi %———-42%—–39%—–(-)3%
R.O Votes—–40601—–49411——8810
Mabi Votes—-29401—–31591——-2190

R.O. has gained by the magnitude of the change in difference when it is -ve
Mabi has gained by the magnitude of the change in difference when it is +ve

Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

If Mabinogi is botting here they need better bots.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Mathematically speaking when the percentage remains constant that doesn't mean both are keeping pace with each other, it means the front running continues to gain and gain. percentages can hide information, you need to look at raw votes and the difference between them

PowerBrian 9 years ago
I play some of these games.
Gotham City Imposters

Aunio 9 years ago
The bot(s) from RO or Mabinogi seems like voting on both sides to keep the percentage at this balance (61% for RO and 39% for Mabi, and 80k+ votes). Good luck for MMObomb to find out the real votes. I barely gave up, sit and watch. Justice?

MMO GUy 9 years ago
A "safe" out for MMOBomb here would be to recon the legitimate count up to the moment "they went public" and ignore all after that. Because once they went public it allowed the botters to retool their algorithms.and time to do it. Plus you could argue that by going public they interfered with the poll.

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
Total Votes—-60002—70002——10000
Mabi %———-44%—–42%—–(-)2%
R.O Votes—–33601—–40601——7000
Mabi Votes—-26401—–29401——-3000

R.O. has gained by the magnitude of the change in difference when it is -ve
Mabi has gained by the magnitude of the change in difference when it is +ve

Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

Well isn't that curious! So what's going on here?

Possibility 1:
After all previous polls, after all previous days of this poll, after overwhelming cheating one way was exposed, while north america was asleep for the entire time and europe for half of it, and after 10+ hours of no votes coming in, now finally the legions of real fans have decided to start voting and happened to do so during the same time period their bots were most active on previous days, and this is all just a coincidence. That's possibility one.

Possibility 2:
The botters saw Mabinogi was catching up, and turned their bots back on, not realizing they've already been caught.

Possibility 3:
After learning they've been caught, seeing what their bot weakness was, knowing how this is going to be handled, and 10+ hours to work on it they've figured out how to make their bots truly pick (from domains that aren't known for providing proxy IP addresses) a unique IP address each time rather than just a different potentially non-unique IP address, and have started them chugging along, and are hoping to hide behind some kind of burden-of-proof requirement.

I can't say which is most likely, but I'm pretty sure which is least likely. Let's see how this is handled later today.

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Rolland 9 years ago
Tbh, why not MMOBomb just use the "Easy poll's Premium Features"?

I heard that it has "Advanced" anti cheats.

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KayKay 9 years ago
I hate to be the bearer of bad news for us at the RO community, but MMObomb posted a few pictures from their tumblr pages showing that our community botted 10k worth of votes. Seriously guys, I thought we were better than this!?

All this botting to beat a No name game?

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Poll stats 9 years ago
Updated @ Mon Mar 24 12:40:00 UTC+0700 2014
ragnarok 35530 57.0%
mabinogi 26775 43.0%
Votes Total: 62305

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
For what it's worth here's an update:

Total Votes—-55000—60002——5002
Mabi %———-40%—–44%—–(+)4%
R.O Votes—–33000—–33601——601
Mabi Votes—-22000—–26401——-4401

R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

If this is saying Mabinogi is using bot then like the R.O. bot it will be filtered out. If this is not because of a bot, then this bodes well for Mabinogi winning this.

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Osu 9 years ago
Does it really matter whether Ragnarok Online or Mabinogi wins? Planetside's going to win the finals either way.

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
If there are any Mabinogi folks using bots. Please stop. It seems the R.O.-voting bot usage has been detected by the pollsters. No one will be disqualified. They're gonna throw out the repeat votes. So just keep those legitimate votes coming in and keep your spirits up.

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Mabinogi Player 9 years ago
eat popcorns*

serious guys thanks for Drama i serious enjoed it until the end

btw i don't even care about the bonus we will receive (if we win) cause i can't even rebirth the next week for getting full profit from that bonus unless you willing to PAY REAL MONEY

the only reason i was voting for Mabinogi was to give it some advertise to make it more know to gamers because despite this suck good game existed for so long time is unknow to everyone because is fall under the Nexon publisher yea, alots of people hate Nexon so they don't try their games - _-

and another thing,

just because some kiddies are butthurt because their games is losing and started using Bots, doesn't mean the WHOLE COMMUNITY use bots , this apply both to Mabinogi and R.O.
so stop making statment like Mabinogi and R.O. are cheaters when only 3-10 players from both side are doing it out of thousand players

XHeros 9 years ago
Twitter /mmobomb/status/447808879053651968/photo/1 <--- shows all.... good job RO on ur cheats

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Reallymabi 9 years ago
I like how mabi is complaining about botting. I'm 100% positive they're botting, and if not only that but botting towards RO so they get an automatic DQ. I've never heard of such a game, and after looking at it would I ever even waste my time with it. Good luck to RO!

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Yuni 9 years ago
Now its getting worse. When I checked again, It seems My Vote got unvoted again. I'm not voting anymore If this keeps up

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MMObomb Playing Favourites 9 years ago
I find it pretty unfair that Mabinogi would get disqualified even if it was RO botting and cheating or rather MMObomb is letting RO get away with it in the first place. There are plenty of proof that RO is cheating for their own game as seen through many websites such as forums and facebook page.

Want proof? Here.

It's so obvious yet MMObomb is ignoring all this. Let's just say, MMObomb is playing favourites.

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
In a fair fight it seems everyone mostly feels planetside would beat mabinogi so I see no reason to argue with that idea. But if RO wins because it has undetectable bots, will you really be able to beat them?

Planetside2 9 years ago
Mabinogi or Ragnarok doesn't matter to me we'll crush you all and be crown top.
So get on my level!!!!

ROSUCKS 9 years ago
RO sucks that game is ancient histroy its garbage mabinogi should win this then get its ars kick by planetside2

rofun 9 years ago
RO have much bigger community. But this community semi-sleepy.
And when players sleep, they watching. And now, they are wake up to support RO.
Many ragnarok online administrators from different servers helping to Ragnarok Online, many players helping by voting, the entire community rallied to help in difficult times

FanboyRO 9 years ago
HELL YEAH we GOT this heheheh ahhahahahh RO ARE THE TRUE WINNERS TO HECK WITH YOU MABINOGIAN PLAYERS our RO has a much higher fanbase then you pathetic mabinogians have

bobo 9 years ago
Did people not read the post? They said all bets are off if either group bots for votes. Which means both games lose. Mabinogi was legitly doing fine until RO out of nowhere shows up with hundreds of votes overnight with a steady increase. All I can say to the Mabi community is to not resort to cheating because of this & let MMOBomb expose them for cheating. If they win, then just have a peace of mind that we lost fair and their win was fake. Sorry if this offends RO players but this advice is for you guys too if Mabinogi bots too. If we kept it that way, this vote wouldnt be a big issue. Its JUST a poll, let this tournament be over already & stop making the other finalists wait.

Aromore 9 years ago
With Cheating:
25000 total votes

With monitored poll:
55000 total votes

Does anyone else see what's wrong with this?

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Total Votes—-53300—55000——1700
Mabi %———-39%—–40%—–(+)1%
R.O Votes—–32513—–33000——487
Mabi Votes—-20787—–22000——-1213

R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
I tweaked the HTML for a copy of the page showing the polling stats. This now shows the percentages to 3 decimal places. All you need to do is replace the appropriate lines with

$('#ro2').html((Math.round(a / c * 100000) / 1000).toFixed(3) + '%');
$('#ma2').html((Math.round(b / c * 100000) / 1000).toFixed(3) + '%');

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
I wonder if this polling software was used to do the Crimea vote? :)

Makeloa 9 years ago
I've gone to both facebook pages and read through both. Mabinogi people have been rallying others to vote and get their friends to vote, RO players are the ones posting "Bots FTW!" all over facebook, check it out if you want to see for yourself.

Neffyyy 9 years ago
RO be cheating....
Please MMOBOMB they need to be disqualified
I don't play Mabinogi but that amount of votes for a game, that no longer people actually play is pathetic...
Their getting more votes than LoL....
Disqualified... in my opinoin

Cydh 9 years ago
if vote cheaters are never end, when will the vote between RO vs Mabinogi is ended? haha
is going to eternal vote? :P

and for RO players, what was in ur mind when u read "Ragnarok Online" is there?
for me, even there is RO2 LoTS or GoTW, the image that crossed in my mind was RO. :P

Poll stats 9 years ago
Updated @ Sun Mar 23 23:10:00 UTC+0700 2014
ragnarok 32730 60.5%
mabinogi 21350 39.5%
Votes Total: 54080

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Xepha 9 years ago
So much debate and hate, why can't we all just get along? )=

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Mabinogi Player 9 years ago
Yea RO is cheating lol..i'm not saying that because i'm for mabinogi I play both, 1/2 of the servers on RO don't even know what the votes are for.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
At the end of the day it will ultimately be MMOBomb's problem. And I'm sure they are looking for an "out" here.

The first possibility is that they say "We cannot detect any signs of cheating in the logs" and go with the displayed poll winner. Mabinogi fans will protest but then if the cheaters covered their tracks well enough what can you do?

If they detect cheating they can remove the duplicate votes. But now:

if the mabinogi wins RO fans will protest but they could be answered with things like mabinogi was always leading in both polls before botting was noticed and so on.

if RO wins Mabingoi fans will protest saying the botter discouraged them until their legitimate votes made up the difference, and RO fans would answer by saying prove it.

You could disqualify both games. But if the botter was a fan of PS2 and wanted both kicked out then that wouldn't be fair. Also it would encourage bot hackers/griefers to wreck all the remaining contests similarly.

They are unlikely to make a third poll because the cheating can start all over again.

What they SHOULD do is suspend the entire competition citing they need to correct the polling software. Fix the polling software and start the entire contest over again from the very beginning.

They could fix the software by doing the following:
1 make the radio buttons display in random order rather than a fixed order.
2 require an email verification before voting and limit votes with one per email addy.
3 put in a CAPCHA like anti-bot system
4 put in a forced time delay between selecting the radio button and when the vote button becomes available.

I'm sure some clever hacker could probably get around all of these but the ping rate for the bot would be quite low unless they have a room full of computers to use.

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Ur Mum 9 years ago
MABI isn't cheating ffs i dont see people going around ohh hey this is how u bot, this is how u cheat but instead i see every single fking shop in mabi has this on their shop title "vote for mabi we are losing" so FK U RO i even saw one of the comments a person form RO admitting he was being taught how to bot. MABI WINS OR NEXON ATTACK MMOBOMB for getting paid by RO

MeepMeep 9 years ago
For the last time, mabi isn't cheating anymore >> we actually did stop this round.

Kryzaldo 9 years ago
Apart from a double disqualification, the next fairest way would be to decide via a coin flip, since it's obvious both have won a poll each, but have also (possibly on the second) cheated. A coin flip is fair since both have a 50/50 chance, and no chance of possible cheating (hah)

I just want this poll to end now.

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FK u RO 9 years ago
i swear to god if both side is not dq(ed) MMOBOMB is playing favorites. Mabi should've won this easily in the first. If MMOBOMB decided to let RO win i bet RO is paying MMBOMB alot of cash to keep winning. THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED IF BOTH SIDE IS NOT BANNED. its either mabi wins or both side dq it is not fair, mabi should've won

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
Total Votes—-50000—53300——3300
Mabi %———-41%—–39%—–(-)2%
R.O Votes—–29500—–32513——3013
Mabi Votes—-20500—–20787——-287

R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

It would seem RO got more than 90% of the votes that interval

As an asside . . .

A lot has been said about how these two games beating each other up is ultimately hurting both of them. I think it's quite the opposite. Someone famous once said, "There is no good publicity or bad publicity there's just publicity". Right now everyone visiting this website is quite aware of both games and it would not surprise me one bit if during this whole time Nexon and Gravity have had a spike in new account creation.

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
At the end of the day we all know that the most popular free-to-play game in the world is (of course) minesweeper. : )

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huh 9 years ago
EQ2 vs Pirate101 go!

zanje 9 years ago
RO For ever one! Still Strong and Kicking!

mabinogi what was that?is that a game?WHAHAHA
mabinogi fans whining lol are you stupid trying to complain the popularity of a Game that come to a state of being a LEGEND!

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
If RO has an undetectable bot they'll beat everyone. We'll know next round for sure. The consensus is that there is no way either mabi or RO could beat PS2. But if RO destroys PS2 like its is mabi then we'll all know.

I find that the fact that the bot keeps brazenly chugging along curious. It means one of the following:
1 it is undetectable and so they are confident and see no reason to stop it.
2 it is totally detectable and they want to be caught because the folks running it are not RO fans.
3 it is totally detectable but they are gambling that MMOBomb won't detect it.
4 it is totally detectable but the folks running it are stupid.

TheBigBang 9 years ago
I'm an RO player and all I've seen in game is people talking about how they're trying to bot the results, trying to go undetected. I honestly feel disgraced by our community who feel the need to cheat to win a silly poll. While I don't believe the Mabinogi community are angels it is quite obvious which side is cheating (RO) and would prefer us to be disqualified rather than win by cheating. Hopefully MMOBomb will be able to pick up on the cheats and remove them from the totals.

WHAT SHIT SITE 9 years ago
Anyone can come to know who is going to win, looking at the two games, if you check on facebook. RO has 1mil+ likes on facebook, its very popular and been there since a decade, where as Mabinogi is a new game having 150-200k likes.

If you look at RO vs DotA 2, i don't think RO can beat DotA 2 at the moment as DotA 2 has players from all other games such as CS and even RO players move towards DotA at some point. DotA's community is almost same in numbers if compared with RO(with whole world & inactives) or bigger than any other game in Rogue Division.

So, without informing every game community, you cant conduct such events cause they will fail for sure if you do that. On top of that, its failed so bad at organizing.

WHAT SHIT SITE 9 years ago
Why don't the "Admins" i don't think they deserved to be called by that names, but i don't know why they can just reset the POLL back to 0. Anyone can cheat on shit polls sites such as the one being used at the moment. Even if any game wins it won't change things for them, they're shit anyways and big games wouldn't care to give shit about this site with a such retarded event.

Senpu 9 years ago
Lol. I'm a Mabinogi player now and I know for sure RO will win from the very start of the poll. RO is a massive FTP considering that they have TWO big servers which are RO2 SEA and RO2 NA. Plus the players of RO1 from AROUND THE WORLD except the private servers. So wake up and just accept the fact that they're winning.
How bad do u want that 3x AP? its clearly that NEXON is ripping our wallets off every single day! Non stop useless event, non stop gachapons, poor quest items or should i say NOTHING at all. The story is good and the game system is awesome but the company sucks! Im a RO1 veteran, those old days playing in RO made me stay for 8 effing years. At Mabinogi, 2 years of disapointment although its addicting.

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Fylas 9 years ago
the only thing that disappoints me is that at the start on the pool I made steam and skype literally glow and reached out/annoyed 200 people over the course of an hour to get em to vote for mabi and thanks to all the cheating that was for nothing :/

Encryption 9 years ago
Okay I'm calling bs on both Ragnarok and Mabinogi.
For starters. I know darn well Ragnarok does not have even HALF some 32,000 ACTIVE players, let alone randoms supporting it because they can.
I also know that Mabinogi doesn't have 20,000 (BOTH NUMBERS ROUNDED MIGHT I ADD) players. Now I play mabinogi. There might be close to 10k, maybe over the top with randoms supporting it but I doubt 20k people have even played Nexon NA's Mabinogi. Now this would be a totally different story if Nexon players across the board were supporting Mabinogi, but I doubt that's the case.
Y'all need to stop your damn cheating, and let the more supported game win. End of story. I know that may be a hard concept for some of you to handle but think about the bad name the game is going to get for the community. I'd rather not have that when people start talking about promoting the game. I'm not sure how you think this works either but, more people = more content because of more income to the company. Winning a tournament like this would mean that the name of the game would be spread around where ever the hell others can see that it's won, which in turn means MORE PLAYERS. Which again means etc. etc. That is the way this works, and that is why a(Mostly(I say mostly because I KNOW there will be some jerk offs who can't stop either trying to ruin things for others or get rid of the illegitimate stride bug)) legitimate game vote is important to any gaming company. If that makes sense.
Sorry if my grammar is off by the way.
I play Mabinogi by the way. I believe it to be one of the only TRUE RPGs out there to this date(Feel free to introduce me to more if you can.) It has a lot of potential but is still good where it is. Nexon is becoming a bit better at working with the game but I'll put that in a seprate review or some crap. I've been playing that game for a looonnnggg time. I've played Ragnarok too, not really my cup of coffee to be honest, still probably a good game but from what I've heard and read, it's mostly decayed.

Anywho, sorry for the side convo. For you TL;DR noobs, STOP TRYING TO CHEAT PLAY THE VOTE FAIR. Dang. Your game will get a worse rep for trying to cheat in the vote rather than it losing fair and square. Keep this up and both games will get disqualified and probably won't be recommended to anyone because of a stupid community ruined by a few bad eggs.

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Bob Smith 9 years ago
The revote is very unjustified for Mabinogi Vs RO. Due to the revote there is a person consistently botting RO and causing Mabinogi to lose by a major landslide. If this is not fixed this entire competition is no longer fair.

Narutard 9 years ago
Just looking at the comments on this thread it looks like mabinogi and ragnarok have the most player support out of all of rogue division...Not sure which one is botting more but just looking at comments here would suggest they are the winners of rogue division, though both will get DQed or MMOBOMB will just ignore both side's cheating this time and RO will go to finals.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Total Votes—-43042—50000——1042
Mabi %———-42%—–41%—–(-)1%
R.O Votes—–24964—–29500——4536
Mabi Votes—-18078—–20500——-2422

R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

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Poll stats 9 years ago
Updated @ Sun Mar 23 12:36:53 UTC+0700 2014
ragnarok 29721 59.4%
mabinogi 20279 40.6%
Votes Total: 50000

MMO Guy 9 years ago
I just figured out how to make it bot proof! Make the two radio button positions load randomly instead of a particular one always being on the bottom and the other on the top.

Droha 9 years ago
I see a lot of butthurt Mabi"noob"ies who just can't digest the fact that RO is legitimately beating their whiny freckled ass. Go home and cry on your mommy's lap Mabinoobies.

Habimaru 9 years ago
Voting Systems were never very good systems to begin with ever since All of History

Xarlane 9 years ago
I have been watching the votes for the past hour and they jumped over by 1k when i started watching the votes were at 46k now there is over 47k i called cheating on RO part somethng needs to be done NOW!

Yuni 9 years ago
I have this weird feeling that someone is using a bot to Unvote one of the Votes. I voted for Mabinogi from afternoon. but this night, When I checked in whats going on. It said Vote for Your Favorite game. Something doesn't seem right.

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HashtagYoloSwagFISHBlazeItFourTwenty 9 years ago
The RO players who were complaining about the botters WERE the botters!!! PLOT TWIST BUM-BUM-BUUUUUMMMMMMM!

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
If that happens what's to stop these people from wrecking all the other match-ups so that EVERY game gets kicked out.

Yuni 9 years ago
When I checked who is standing, Why did it have the vote button in? Whats going on here?

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Aromore 9 years ago
Mabinogi player here.

Disqualify both games. Problem solved.

Ionus 9 years ago
Warframe for Wizard division! D:<

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Sadly what it will come down to is how stealthy their bot is. If it can cover its tracks then that's that show's over folks. If not then ALL its votes will be removed.

If it can cover it's tracks then all subsequent polls in this entire contest will explode, because everyone will want to get stealthy bots and will use them.

MrPWAH 9 years ago
So much hate between RO and Mabinogi. I will laugh if the winner gets roflstomped by PS2 or Warframe in the Rogue vs Wizard match up.

Thoruuuuu 9 years ago
Seriously lol. How did they go from around 3k votes in 3 days to more than 15k in a night? Come on lets be realistic~ It makes -1000000 sense.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
It is unlikely that mabinogi is botting at all. Think about it they are losing ground constantly and by a lot. If they were botting too then vote gain would be pretty close to even. But they're getting killed. It's a simple matter to have your friend run a bot also to make up ground and if that's not good enough then another and another and so on. This isn't happening.

If there is botting going I suspect its only 1 computer doing so.

No one should get D/Q'ed becasue the motives of the botters cannot be known.

Assuming there is a bot voting for R.O it could mean:
1 an RO is try make his game win
2 a mabinogi fan is trying to discredit RO
3 a PS2 fan is trying to get both kicked out
if you kick out mabinogi and RO you also must kick out PS2 and this entire division.

Dat One Guy 9 years ago
I still vote RO and Mabi get DQ'd. Sure, some will be butthurt over the no reward, but the ones who voted just to win will deal just fine. I can't say anything about RO, since I don't play it. If there's proof of cheating, just disqualify both. They shouldn't have to resort to such measures to win. Even if they win, they'd be known for false victory anyway. (If proven cheating, I mean.)

But if there has to be a victor between the two, I support one of the above suggestions of re-doing the whole poll, but add Capchas or other means to prevent bots.

Ziggins 9 years ago
The fact of the matter is, if RO gets dq'd (rightfully should). Mabinogi won't make it any further anyways. RO players have proven that their community will spitefully vote against us anyways. So every round after will be Mabinogi vs XXXXX + RO. The only way imo for this to be entirely fair would be to make you sign in to vote or something. If theres some kind of registered vote, people would have to put more effort into making BS votes. Hopefully a registered vote could also impede those voting because they lost, just to spite the winning game.

Based off the numbers, saying mabinogi is botting hardcore is laughable. There are probably a few on our side, but in all honesty, our numbers have been mostly consistent each round. RO, on the other hand. Gaining 15k+ votes overnight... lol....

OizenX 9 years ago
There are 44,000 votes under the poll.

Let us note how the other polls barely break 10k.

Carnal 9 years ago
Its obvious there is cheating around.
And as others said, the Mabinogi community is telling the other players not to bot because it is shamefull to do this. Either reset the poll or disqualify both because this is getting out of hand and becoming really childish. Comon.. Botting? Really now?

lol 9 years ago
dat vote still goin LOL

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Total Votes—-42000—43042——1042
Mabi %———-42%—–42%—–(-)0%
R.O Votes—–24360—–24964——604
Mabi Votes—-17640—–18078——-438

R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

Well it seems they are comfortable enough with their lead to shut off the bot, either that or there mom needs to use the computer right now

ZeroLancer 9 years ago
It definitely looks like there are still people on both sides botting with those vote numbers, granted it looks like at least some botter(s) stopped (more stopped on Mabi's side considering the numbers before the poll was reposted).

Seriously though, why are people still botting after the poll was already restarted in an attempt for a fair vote? I hope MMOBomb is monitoring it as they said and I hope they have a way to just get rid of the extra votes from the particular IP addresses that are botting. I really hope that it doesn't come down to both games being DQ'd over a few people not being willing to give up botting the numbers up.

Also... competition is nice but it really sucks that there's so much bashing going on. Granted it is good that the word got out about the botting to try to make this more fair, bashing each other's games just reflects poorly on the community that you represent. I play Mabi and it has awesome parts and not-so-awesome parts to it but it's still really fun. I haven't played RO before but I am sure it also has awesome and not-so-awesome parts to it.

Seriously, it doesn't help to win this contest if you make gamers from other communities who may have otherwise tried the game hate you for it. Sure we get a mini event reward for winning a round but the bigger reward was always to get the word out that there's a great game for people to try.

tldr: I wish the botting and bashing would stop cause I don't want the game I like to be represented by such people. I hope that MMOBomb can just delete out the votes that are being botted so those of us that wanted a fair match aren't disappointed by a double DQ or something like that.

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
I can just see it now. they go through the log and it shows:

20% of all votes came from from the Americas.
20% of all votes came form Europe
20% of all votes came from Asia
40% of all votes came from one particular service provider from one particular small country.

Fang 9 years ago
Next poll restart somebody tell MMObomb to implement 4 things.

1. Show total vote Percentages by COUNTRY (So R.O Kiddies can't hide behind their "our other branches are helping us" excuse.

2. An actual IP block that filters already voted IPs. (might as well block proxy server IPs as well.)

3. Actually use money to Pay for a Moderated Poll, seems they wen't the cheap route.

4. apply the 3 strike you're out rule.
If by the 3rd poll, both games are cheating. DQ BOTH OF THEM!

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
Total Votes—-40094—40094——1906
Mabi %———-43%—–42%—–(-)1%
R.O Votes—–22854—–24360——1506
Mabi Votes—-17240—–17640——-400

R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

I think they've added another computer to their cause.

JustPassingBy 9 years ago
I think RO just discovered that they can bot in the middle of the previous round, but were unable to catch up to mabinogi. But now same thing is happening again, but they have the knowledge and technology to jump the gun again. Since they already lost in the begining they might aswell pull mabinogi down with them by hacking.(Either I win or no one wins.)

more like fagnarok online 9 years ago
all it means is that your community is the shittiest because you literally couldnt get anywhere in this contest without cheating, no matter which division your game is in

Nishishou 9 years ago
Someone from an MMO in the Cleric division here. I like how everyone's trying to shove the blame on the underdog MMO even though there's one gigantic problem with this entire "showdown":

It's not even a showdown, it's one massive attempt at a publicity stunt and seeing who can bribe, cheat, and bot their way to the top without getting away with it. It's actually been proven that Ragnarok Online has been using dynamic IPs, proxies, and even bribing communities like Reddit and such to vote for them. Many other participants are also guilty of this. And what does MMObomb do? Praise them for "community effort" and just blow off anyone who dare point out the truth, of course! All winning means is that your community is the shittiest and dirtiest. The saddest part is that MMObomb doesn't even care as long as there's no multiple entries from the same IP, they act like proxies and dynamic IP addresses don't even exist.

The MMOs aren't even being judged on their content, graphics, gameplay, ect. just as every "lets see which MMO is the best" contest does. Otherwise Pirates101 and Wizards101 would be excluded right off the bat for being pay-to-proceed. This polling contest as a whole is a sham and MMObomb as an entire website is a complete and utter joke. There's a reason why people go to other websites for MMO information, it's because MMObomb is so sketchy, disrespectful, biased, ect.

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Mabiplayer 9 years ago
who won? the second round mabi or RO>?

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
Total Votes—-35001—40094——5093
Mabi %———-45%—–43%—–(-)2%
R.O Votes—–19251—–22854——3603
Mabi Votes—-15751—–17240——-1490

R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

Well seems efforts have increased.

ChibiTrixi 9 years ago
I really wish they'd use some other method for counting votes for this round after the RO vs Mabi cheating fiasco. Something that required actual human input so botting would be at least lessened. I mean, there's been no change whatsoever to the system, so whoever has been skewing the votes with botting before is undoubtedly still doing it.

Honestly, with that in mind, I don't know how anyone from either game can be happy if they win through botting and cheating. Winning through hard work is rewarding. Winning through various unfair tactics would really sour the victory. Certainly I'd feel bad about myself if I knew I'd done that; I suppose it depends on your moral compass.

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ragnazorg 9 years ago
please realize that a single private server in thailand can have as much as 22,000 players with 17,000 real players at any time. This voting link is posted on ragnarok emulator boards, facebook ragnarok groups and a lot more and people vote just to let ro win without the FREE STUFF other server admins offered.

Himura91 9 years ago
Mabinogi NEVER, i said NEVER, will beat RO.

RO community is one of the biggest in the world.

Mabinogi have ip block some countrys

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
Making a bot to do just that would not be particularly difficult. But it's activity would be completely detectable and its impact on the poll completely reversible by using the poll logs.

petrolololol 9 years ago
vote and vote and vote again all you want!! you dont even need bots to do this just delete your cookies then you will be able to vote again!!!! enjoy 8D ... this poll is lame... :/

Oizen 9 years ago
Ragnabot online.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
You make a lot of sense and I don't disagree with you. But MMOBomb is a media organization and what matters most to such an organization is that people pay attention to them. If they drop the ball on this it will hurt THEM more than the participating games or their communities.

But at this point everyone has to wait. I assume employees of MMOBomb are like any other company and that they get the weekend off. They'll come in to work Monday and then we'll see what happens.

If there was botting and if it was detectable then the best thing for them to do is to throw out the extra votes and announce the legitimate totals. If it was not detectable well then really what can anyone do?

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BUttzland 9 years ago
So, mmo guy how would you handle this little contest of who's the better bot. Like, which person should lose or DQ. Your the smartest person on this forum with commen sense so I would like to hear your thoughts.

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SydneyDragon 9 years ago
Either way, whether Mabi or RO wins, the legitimacy and weight of these accusations will be apparent when MMOBomb decides who won. if they disqualify either one, or both, it'll be their decision. This is their poll, their website, they set the criteria. How they want to enforce the rules is not something we can really worry about.

I voted For Mabi. Yes, I did get swayed by the 3x AP event in the case we won. However, I've been playing for years, and I've long since come the the conclusion that it's the people who make the game (especially in Mabinogi's case) enjoyable. Either way, we will live. I'd love to see a week long DR, but if it doesn't happen, oh well; I like the people I play with. If you hate the other team because they are "cheaters", guess what! THEY ARE ON A DIFFERENT F@#$%^& GAME.

F2P P2W, it's how all games are nowadays. Games don't run on nothing, corporations need to make money somehow. I'm just under the mindset, if you want to support the game, do something other than complain about the ones who pay to get the extras. It's a FREE game. if you want to get a head, then pull your weight. Don't gripe and complain about unfairness. I work for my money, and I'd like to see it getting put to use.

d10kn 9 years ago
Funny, people in APB's community spam on social districts to cheat and vote, and the do the same on forums.

Show how much of a **** community APB has.

And yes, I've played APB since RTW.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Gawd! You know the way the reply feature in this software works completely s u x! You have to jump around this damm thread and can easily miss stuff. It should be like other software where when you reply it allows a quote of what your replying and puts it at the bottom so everything is in order.

here 9 years ago
36k total votes...even worse than before

LobsterFiend 9 years ago
I have an idea. Both the Mabi and RO communities do not care about the polls anymore since they're so disappointed about being labeled as cheaters. In this contest, one can argue that the people who have been working the hardest are the cheaters (the people who want the rewards promised from both games). So why not just disqualify both games just to spite all the goddamn cheaters and botters. The cheaters do not represent the Mabi community nor the RO community and they are the "real villians" of this competition and we should not give them what they want.

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Stop this childish act 9 years ago
Miscalculating in earlier data

371 vote in 17 minute (153-238) <--- this should be 153-218

198 vote in 7 minute (128-70)
569 vote in 24 minutes (281-308) <-- 281-288

201 vote in 6 minute (123-78)
770 vote in 30 minute (404-386) <--- 404-366

Updated @ Sun Mar 23 02:22:00 UTC+0700 2014
ragnarok 19220 55.2%
mabinogi 15612 44.8%
Votes Total: 34832

20 minute 673 vote (429-244)
50 minute 1443 vote (833-610)

Updated @ Sun Mar 23 02:32:00 UTC+0700 2014
ragnarok 19509 55.4%
mabinogi 15707 44.6%
Votes Total: 35216

10 minute 384 vote (289-95)
1 hour vote 1827 vote (1122-705)

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Total Votes—-30002—35001——4999
Mabi %———-45%—–45%—–(+)0%
R.O Votes—–16501—–19251——2749
Mabi Votes—-13501—–15751——-2250

R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

Although the percentages remain the same this does not mean both are keeping pace with each other. The front runner in this case will always be pulling away even though the percentages remain the same.

Assuming both sides are using bots now and that one is clearly doing a better job at it, has anyone considered that maybe these botters aren't fans of either game and just want to get both d/q'ed to make the next round a bye for whoever either would face?

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Bullcrap 9 years ago
Yeah, Ragnarok totally isn't cheating... they suddenly go from a mere couple hundred of votes and then suddenly peak at well over 19,000. I call total bull.

Stop this childish act 9 years ago
Source : choobs(dot)org(slash)poll(dot)html

Updated @ Sun Mar 23 01:32:00 UTC+0700 2014
ragnarok 18387 55.1%
mabinogi 15002 44.9%
Votes Total: 33389

Updated @ Sun Mar 23 01:34:00 UTC+0700 2014
ragnarok 18412 55.1%
mabinogi 15023 44.9%
Votes Total: 33435

46 vote in 2 minute (25-21)

Updated @ Sun Mar 23 01:39:00 UTC+0700 2014
ragnarok 18459 55.0%
mabinogi 15077 45.0%
Votes Total: 33536

101 vote in 5 minute (47-54)
147 vote in 7 minute (62-85)

Updated @ Sun Mar 23 01:43:00 UTC+0700 2014
ragnarok 18494 55.0%
mabinogi 15139 45.0%
Votes Total: 33633

97 vote in 4 minute (35-62)
244 vote in 11 minute (107-137)

Updated @ Sun Mar 23 01:49:00 UTC+0700 2014
ragnarok 18540 54.9%
mabinogi 15220 45.1%
Votes Total: 33760

127 vote in 6 minute (46-81)
371 vote in 17 minute (153-238)

Updated @ Sun Mar 23 01:56:03 UTC+0700 2014
ragnarok 18668 55.0%
mabinogi 15290 45.0%
Votes Total: 33958

198 vote in 7 minute (128-70)
569 vote in 24 minutes (281-308)

Updated @ Sun Mar 23 02:02:00 UTC+0700 2014
ragnarok 18791 55.0%
mabinogi 15368 45.0%
Votes Total: 34159

201 vote in 6 minute (123-78)
770 vote in 30 minute (404-386)

This poll is BS , both are suspicious
- RO got sudden big jump
- Mabi vote rise at same interval in 30 minute

Tyler 9 years ago
Waframe vs. APB... I love both games. But I have to go with Warframe...

raphi 9 years ago
Ragnarok best game ever

here 9 years ago
This voting system is so flawed, it doesn't matter who'll win at this point. It's the number of bots spamming this will win. I say mmobomb should delay the voting and get a better IP restricted voting system.

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XHeros 9 years ago
facebook ---> /photo.php?v=1545164419042655 its that moment when Mabi noticed RO was coming from behind

Nigel Thornberry 9 years ago
In the course of a couple hours RO gained quite a lot of votes. Hell the exploit was even posted on their facebook page.

Since RO was the aggressor first it would be fair to DQ them.

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Mr M^2O 9 years ago
Like I said before . .

Well the first thing to consider is:
If there is a bot being used can it be shown? If the bot is capable of using a unique I.P. on every attempt then that’s that and nothing can be done, they can say “We found no evidence of cheating”.

But what if it can be shown then what?

Some have suggested both games be d/qed. When you consider that out of the 10k+ unique people who have voted with perhaps only one truely cheating. Then that means one side has been completely honest and the other side has been almost completely honest. So double d/q would not be right.

Some might think that since the bot is voting for R.O. then just d/q R.O. This is also wrong. Since the person running the bot might be a Mabinogi fan trying to discredit them.

So the answer is to go through the log, remove the duplicate votes, and recon the winner from that.

Stop this childish act 9 years ago
No matter who win in this RO vs Mabi poll , neither wont win this contest. It will be more QQ and rage comment in LoL vs this division winner.

OizenX 9 years ago
This poll is obviously botted even worse than the last one. Last poll I saw got to about 27k votes in a DAY. This ones hit 32k(At the time of this post) at the time of this post even faster. I honestly dont think 32,000 people even play Mabinogi or Ragnarok.

I'd love to say Mabinogi is innocent, but I know better. I would honestly just drop this bracket and disqualify both Mabinogi and Ragnarok if I was MMOBomb.

I'm pretty dissapointed by this, especially how it shows that people cant even read. I mean MMO clearly typed out they're monitoring this harder.

ereH emaN 9 years ago
Disqualify them both! Just let PlanetSide 2 take the win. :l
/Mabi player

Lokicrim 9 years ago
That is BS Mabinogi won the first vote and they re did it most players dont know they restarted it and now were losing MMOBOMB your a BS site the first vote should count and also with in 10-15 mins From Mabinogi winning we were losing by allot BS.....

Pie 9 years ago
I'm not blaming any side but, its obvious that someone is botting.
Proof: Refresh the and it gains ~2 votes every 30sec or something. I can't tell since well it'd take a long long time to see which % goes up after that spam voting.

XHeros 9 years ago
Ragnarok Online 55%
Mabinogi 45%
Total votes: 31959

So how is mabi cheating? Looks like RO is cheating to me

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Trey 9 years ago
What's going on now? Last I heard RO had people from JP and KR helping them and then they started botting again and now Mabi is too? This is stupid just kick both of them out lol so PS2 wins :D, on a real note though, Mabi has always had like 15k+ Voters on their side and I think the max I've seen for RO was 2k, I just wanna see PS2 Get 200k+ voters and destroy the other >:D

Ladyofthenight 9 years ago
Mabingoi has a better game play and we have alot that every one can do in it. You can be a human or elf or giant, but it's best to get the human first to get the free elf and giant. We get free pets from the Saga and you will get 2 free pets when you start out. We have players that will help others out not like RO with I have tried and there was no one wanting to help me out. There was no one around. You can also see that when I asked some one in the game to help on a quest they just called me a noob and cut me down on it so I will stay with the game that has good players like Mabinogi dose.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Is there a record from 18k total votes to now?

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Well if Mabinogi is using a bot they really need to use a better one. LOL

Foxiee 9 years ago
MABINOGI!!!!!!! <333333333333333333333333333

EAPidgeon 9 years ago
Data from a user on the forums who has been collecting poll updates every minute using JS.

http:// /fXep2AA.png (delete the spaces between http// (imgur) and /fX)

Thoruuuuu 9 years ago
Definitely ! There is like 30k votes when they had like 2k last vote. Makes no sense. Also there is like 2 new votes every second o.o um fishy

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Total Votes—-29000—30002——1002
Mabi %———-45%—–45%—–(+)0%
R.O Votes—–15950—–16501——551
Mabi Votes—-13050—–13501——-451

R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Total Votes—-28000—29000——1000
Mabi %———-45%—–45%—–(+)0%
R.O Votes—–15400—–15950——550
Mabi Votes—-12600—–13050——-450

R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

This shows why reading percentages alone is not good enough. The percentages remained unchanged but as you can see the front-runner still gains in that situation.

Everade 9 years ago
Yes, you guys are truly all just little fans who're trying to move their favourite game into the right light.

But the truth is, no one cares about this website, so the polls can never be accurate, it's simply impossible.
The Ragnarok Online fan base is for sure NOT aware about this poll, otherwise there would have been over 1million votes just for Ragnarok Online itself.

So no matter how "big" your Mabinogi fan base might be.
Ragnarok Online is still way to much played in the Asia area, especially Philippines.

It even has won as Nr.1 in the Most Popular Game in Philippines in 2011.
And that's just them, Ragnarok Online has still tons of active players all over the world.

Ragnarok The Animation was even broadcasted on TV, which based on the Ragnarok Online MMORPG.
And even if Ragnarok is not that much played anymore like in the past, old players would still vote for it, if they were aware about this poll.

Mabinogi is in NO comparsion to Ragnarok Online, and will never be.
Truth signed out...

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
Because of the change in the display page for this thread I'll just a recap the progress reports of been making (Times are in EDT):

March 21, 2014 at 9:53 pm
Total Votes—-7001—–8001
Mabi %———-76%—–73%
R.O Votes—–1680—–2160
Mabi Votes—-5321—–5841
Difference——3641—–3680 +39

March 21, 2014 at 10:08 pm
Total Votes—-8001—9002
Mabi %———-73%—–69%
R.O Votes—–2160—–2791
Mabi Votes—-5841—–6211
Difference——3680—–3421 -260

March 21, 2014 at 10:40 pm
Total Votes—-9002—10001——999
Mabi %———-69%—–66%—–(-)3%
R.O Votes—–2791—–3400——610
Mabi Votes—-6211—–6601——-389

March 21, 2014 at 11:22 pm
Total Votes—-10001—11000——999
Mabi %———-66%—–64%—–(-)2%
R.O Votes—–3400—–3960——560
Mabi Votes—-6601—–7040——-439

March 22, 2014 at 12:28 am
Total Votes—-11000—12000——1000
Mabi %———-64%—–63%—–(-)1%
R.O Votes—–3960—–4440——480
Mabi Votes—-7040—–7560——-520

March 22, 2014 at 1:34 am
Total Votes—-12000—13000——1000
Mabi %———-63%—–62%—–(-)1%
R.O Votes—–4440—–4940——500
Mabi Votes—-7560—–8060——-500

March 22, 2014 at 7:43 am
Total Votes—-13000—23000——10000
Mabi %———-62%—–47%—–(-)15%
R.O Votes—–4940—–12190——7250
Mabi Votes—-8060—–10810——-2750

March 22, 2014 at 8:37 am
Total Votes—-23000—25001——2001
Mabi %———-47%—–45%—–(-)2%
R.O Votes—–12190—–13751——1561
Mabi Votes—-10810—–111250——-440

March 22, 2014 at 9:15 am
Total Votes—-25001—26001——1000
Mabi %———-45%—–44%—–(-)1%
R.O Votes—–13751—–14561——810
Mabi Votes—-11250—–11440——-190

the next is show above the time stamps is March 22, 2014 at 11:39 am

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Anon 9 years ago
Don't really care either way (I enjoy Mabinogi and I was a fan of RO back in the day), but I'm getting obnoxiously suspicious of the RO votes right now. Something like 16,000 votes went in in just the past half day or so. Gonna go ahead and call BS on that. In the end though, if it were truly based on just popularity I think we can all agree that LoL would win the whole thing without too much of a problem.

neji2k 9 years ago
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MMO Guy 9 years ago
Total Votes—-26001—28000——1999
Mabi %———-44%—–44%—–(+)1%
R.O Votes—–14561—–15400——839
Mabi Votes—-11440—–12600——-1160

R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

Well either. Botboy woke up and said "My work is done . . . for now." Or Mabinogi has answered back with a bot of their own. Considering the size of the numbers obtained over the time period I'd say both sides mostly played fair for that interval.

By the way this thread software should just have page numbers, the transition from newer to older comments was quite awkward and confusing.

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neji2k 9 years ago
i went to be with it being 62% to 38% there is no way this happened in one night without some type of cheating

neji2k 9 years ago
lol ragnarok online cheated way to hard

Mr M^2O 9 years ago
Well the first thing to consider is:
If there is a bot being used can it be shown? If the bot is capable of using a unique I.P. on every attempt then that's that and nothing can be done, they can say "We found no evidence of cheating".

But what if it can be shown then what?

Some have suggested both games be d/qed. When you consider that out of the 10k+ unique people who have voted with perhaps only one truely cheating. Then that means one side has been completely honest and the other side has been almost completely honest. So double d/q would not be right.

Some might think that since the bot is voting for R.O. then just d/q R.O. This is also wrong. Since the person running the bot might be a Mabinogi fan trying to discredit them.

So the answer is to go through the log, remove the duplicate votes, and recon the winner from that.

FanboyRO 9 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAH we will crush you mabinogians!

Justison 9 years ago
Ragnarok Online can't help but cheat with bots i guess
what happens if 1 or both are cheating nonstop? what will this mmobomb do to make it fair?

WildLavender 9 years ago
Okay, the fact that in the fight between Mabi and RO there were almost 10k votes within 12 hours, at night no less, is starting to get a little.....ridiculous. Someone needs to do something about this.

Xe 9 years ago
The fact that you even can vote that many times per IP is ridiculous. Why not just force it to be limited to 3 or 4? Very few places would have more than that I'd think.

Supreme_Sublime 9 years ago
RO-Cheating so Hard... Kinda Sad that we had to reset and do it over
People these days...

MMO Guy 9 years ago
In the previous round it appears there were botters on both sides. But the numbers this time suggest that Mabinogi is playing fair while for R.O it is uncertain.

What this will come down to, I suspect, is how good the script kiddie running the bot for R.O. is. If he was able to mask his I.P. correctly he’ll carry the day. If not then the R.O. community will crucify him.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
This thread software is acting weird. I post and they are showing up in "older comments". And now I have some repeats. Anyone else experiencing this?

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
I think what this will come down to, I suspect, is how good the script kiddie running the bot for R.O. is. If he was able to mask his I.P. correctly he’ll carry the day. If not then the R.O. community will crucify him.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Sorry about the double post, this page is acting weird. I'll restart my browser.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
What this will come down to, I suspect, is how good the script kiddie running the bot for R.O. is. If he was able to mask his I.P. correctly he’ll carry the day. If not then the R.O. community will crucify him.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
What this will come down to, I suspect, is how good the script kiddie running the bot for R.O. is. If he was able to mask his I.P. correctly he'll carry the day. If not then the R.O. community will crucify him.

FvckThisSh!T 9 years ago

FvckThisSh!T 9 years ago
those bribes is the cause of those players cheating

MMO Guy 9 years ago
If Mabinogi is using bots here, they're getting terrible numbers from them. They would do MUCH better by voting manually.

wowwow 9 years ago

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Unyu 9 years ago
This isn't a "which game is better" competition at all. It's a "which game bribes its player base the most". So it's only natural that many of these games will employ bots to get votes (RO and Mabinogi) just to give themselves a bigger e-peen.

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
I got a theory about the folks running these polls. They said;
"We’ll be carefully monitoring the IP traffic on this one, as well as the above two polls".

Why didn't they just simply check the log from the previous poll and parse out the repeats?
I bet it's because they weren't logging it; there are NO logs of the previous polls. If this is the case, then that would indicate just how professional they are, wouldn't it?

FvckThisSh!T 9 years ago
it's better that Botboy is still in bed
things can't be achieve by cheating

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
Total Votes—-25001—26001——1000
Mabi %———-45%—–44%—–(-)1%
R.O Votes—–13751—–14561——810
Mabi Votes—-11250—–11440——-190

R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

I'd say Botboy is still in bed. : )

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FvckThisSh!T 9 years ago
yeah I agree to you

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Assuming there is a bot voting for R.O. (and maybe there isn't, maybe it just worked out this way) but assuming there is, those folks who would otherwise vote for Mabinogi should still do so. If there is cheating going on by one side, and if they can detect it, they may simply remove all of that persons votes and take the totals then. If Mabinogi voters get discouraged and stop voting then the "honest" votes for R.O may carry the day.

I would think that these polls create their own logs on their servers indicating vote, time, and I.P. address of voter. It would be a simple matter to have software parse the log to remove the dishonest votes. In fact they could've done it for the previous poll attempt.

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FvckThisSh!T 9 years ago
can they just be honest about this poll?
I bet they can't :P

FvckThisSh!T 9 years ago
nah.. don't care about those vote anymore
it's better doing something else rather I seeing those thingy

mandungo 9 years ago
I don't know if they call this a fair play but look at this, the moment they see mabi players cheating they close and reset the poll. In the new poll RO players cheat and they just turn a blind eye like nothing is happening. Seems like this site only wanted for RO to win this tourney D:

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Total Votes—-23000—25001——2001
Mabi %———-47%—–45%—–(-)2%
R.O Votes—–12190—–13751——1561
Mabi Votes—-10810—–111250——-440

R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

If I were to bet on what's going on I'd say this. Everyone is voting honestly except that there is one single person running a bot which is voting for R.O. They started the bot went to bed and have not yet got up.

FvckThisSh!T 9 years ago
stupid people
it just a game okay? every game has its own pros and cons
btw hope RO will win but I don't expect wining from cheating

Lel 9 years ago
Look at all this silly. You are all silly. Silly human trolls.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Total Votes—-13000—23000——10000
Mabi %———-62%—–47%—–(-)15%
R.O Votes—–4940—–12190——7250
Mabi Votes—-8060—–10810——-2750

R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

Well I think that says it all. What's on trial now is the integrity of those folks conducting this poll. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that perhaps they were at home and not monitoring this and that when they get into work they can see if any cheating was happening.

It seems to me if "both" side were in fact cheating and not just one, then their numbers gained over the interval would be similar, Clearly they are not; they are completely one sided.

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Neutral person 9 years ago
People accusing RO of cheating don't realise RO has over 10million players worldwide..and the reason that the votes were so slow in the other rounds is because we didnt' care about it and didn't spread it.

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This is getting ridiculous 9 years ago
It is obvious that there will be no end to this cheating accusation from both sides. I'm all for Mabinogi, but I personally think it's best for both games to be disqualified and be done with it. No matter who "wins," there will still be kids ranting nonstop. Both RO and Mabi had a second opportunity to prove they truly are a great community, but some people decided to screw it up.

Unknown 9 years ago
And there they are going at it again, RO sure does like to cheat, NOT A SINGLE time they went beyond 3K vote TOTAL during this poll AND ALL OF THE SUDDEN they can get 10K+ votes ? And then they pretend Mabinogi is the cheater... Unlike RO mabinogi EACH time went beyond 10K votes. Please be serious neither of the communities can seriously pretend that RO is looking legit right now, not while knowing how many votes they got during this whole poll and I did watch the amount of votes EVERY candidates were getting during each step, such a lack of fairness and honesty from RO, that's utterly desappointing from a community supposed to be older.

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Blaablubb 9 years ago
Hi, I play RO now for a long time and now, because of this vote I hear first time about Mabi. I googled and have a look at this game. In my opinion its a worse chance in my life that I will play this...
Ro is much better, so I animated my friends to vote for once and I have a lot of friends at RO Server...

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Doyoureadcomments? 9 years ago
Do you read the comments?

In majority, we have
-little kiddy rage posts against RO
-posts that both sides are cheating
-posts that want both to be DQed

I don't really care who win this and I'd also prefere them both to be DQed since both sides seem to be cheating and no matter which one will win >this< round, the other fraction will most likely start cheating against them in the next round which kills of the whole vote.
Well actually, concerning playerbase LoL will win. I don't play it, I don't even like it (tried it some time but it's not my type of game). But it has right now the biggest community of all mentioned games here. So simply quit this whole poll of cheating fractions on every side since those who cheat will also find out how to spoof MAC adresses, make LOL the winner of the never happened polls, call it a day and never bring up an unsecure poll like this again.

wowwow 9 years ago

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Maydayparadex33 9 years ago
Considering there's supposedly 5 votes per second, when do you think MMOBOMB is going to disqualify the biggest cheater :D?

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Kerrook 9 years ago
Congrats RO and Mabi, you have nearly reached the 25k vote restart point from last time, in just over 12hrs.

What will you do once both sides get removed from the brackets?

LobsterFiend 9 years ago
Your name already exposed how much of a troll you are. You're trying to hard.

Fylas 9 years ago
So what are the plans for next round? think we need the korean votes this time? I don't think everyone is so petty but a portion of the real voters will probably vote for planet side 2 out of spite. How many votes will they amass roughly? 6k? 9k?

Hobi 9 years ago
That's if we even make it past LoL.

Silly troll

And this is why we have idiots... 9 years ago
please don't make Mabi looks worse then it does whit how you act.. yes RO just jumped 2% in under 30 mins but oh well. But don't come on here giving us a even worse name then what we have. RO is an amazing game Same with Mabi but at the moment you're making our community look like Trash.. Thank you...

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Rolland 9 years ago
Quit the accusation acts.
More like we RO communities have noticed you guys tried to Disqualify us through voting for us with vote bots/macros/whatever it is. Whatever, when you did that, the votes would be void, we couldn’t care less.
Crying out loud to convince the admins here that we are cheating won’t help it happen, MMOBOMB admins has enough brains to see what is going on.

Be honest and remember at 19th March, you guys started using macros first.
its recorded to be at 11 votes/minute.
12 hours later, we took action because of your immaturity.
3 hours later, you guys triples the macros into 33 votes/minute.
The vote is void then as the reports has been sent to MMOBOMB.

Rather that fighting cheaters with cheats, we decided to learn from our mistake unlike some immature communities.

We posted so many threads on local communities, take this for an example.


replace the stars with "kaskus"

That’s a spot for Indonesian community, we rallied idRO & idPSRO players which is around 1.5m active users atm.

We also visited Us, Ph ,and Jp threads to help us vote for this.

We rallied our own flags through hard-work.
Not through toxic acts.

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Fang 9 years ago
Easy way to Decide.. DQ the winner of the votes and problem is solved.

Screw it? 9 years ago
enough attention with them two games, just flip a coin and end this foolish debate of opinions and invalid arguements

wowwow 9 years ago
To be honest RO went from 1:34am 38% 4:20am ~ 47% in such a short amount of time make me raise an eyebrow. I'm a mabinogi fan but my god WDF!!! Mabinogi was whooping RO ass and such a huge come back in such a short amount of time WDF :| please tell me I'm not the only one that's seeing this bullshit. Btw its now RO 47% Mabinogi 53% .-..........................

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Hobi 9 years ago
Ryan I have a question as to why you think they're cheating?

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Ryan 9 years ago
The only thing we can do is just point out RO is cheating on MMObombs forums and twitter and hope MMObomb actually pulls their heads out of their asses. I don't even play Mabinogi but I kno cheating when i see it =/

Hobi 9 years ago
The troll is strong here or just everyone that happens to be posting right now is retarded.

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A name not used 9 years ago
You see the thing is if MMObomb really lets cheaters like LOTRO and Ragnarok get away with all this shit and even praises the "community effort", whats the point of winning? Who WANTS to win such a dishonorable contest run by such a sketchy website?

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Reimu 9 years ago
Ragnarok Online is cheating! They've even been talking about using dynamic IPs and Proxies to get in extra votes on their forums!

wowwow 9 years ago
Wow, I think RO boting out the ass lol

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Ziggins 9 years ago
Anyone who believes Ragnarok should rightfully win against Mabinogi needs to take some things into account. What does ragnarok have that differs from any other Aeria game, Perfect world entertainment game, etc, etc. It's a click once to attack, spam skill game. Anyone who says its not is really over analyzing the game.
Mabinogi has too unique of a gameplay to be overlooked by people who play the MMO clones that populate 90% of the internet now. I'm not saying this just as a fan of mabinogi, but as simple fact. You can't faceroll or macro your way through mabi like most other games. I played RO, RO2, and several other games, and nothing sticks out between them. The life skills aren't even unique. They're baby fed to you from lvl1.

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
Total Votes—-12000—12000——1000
Mabi %———-63%—–62%—–(-)1%
R.O Votes—–4440—–4940——500
Mabi Votes—-7560—–8060——-500

R.O. has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is -ve
Mabi has gained by the magnetude of the change in difference when it is +ve

Use the difference between the time stamp of this post with that of my previous similar post to approximate the length of the time interval.

How 'bout that . . . no change!

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gamehawk 9 years ago
TF2 got taken out by MAPLESTORY?!?!?!?!? Either valve doesn't care one bit of this vote, or Nexon won by hax;).

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
Yeah I found their instructions for this new poll to be unsatisfactory. I mean what if someone votes between 5-399 times? If they can't make their software limit folks to one vote per person. Then they should throw out all pretense and say "Go ahead vote all you want - bots welcome" and be done with it. At least that would technically be fair.

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Okami Maru 9 years ago
this whole "which is best" poll is just plain stupid simply for the fact that anybody can vote as many times as they like... and disqualifying one game because it got multiple votes from one computer can push competitors to vote multiple times for the game they are against to disqualify the other... this whole "poll" is total bullshit...

Fylas 9 years ago
if someone where to call on the jp and kr mabi players..... the zerg rush *shudders in horror*

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Total Votes—-10001—11000——999
Mabi %———-66%—–64%—–(-)2%
R.O Votes—–3400—–3960——560
Mabi Votes—-6601—–7040——-439

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Total Votes—-9002—10001------999
Mabi %———-69%—–66%-----(-)3%
R.O Votes—–2791—–3400------610
Mabi Votes—-6211—–6601-------389

R.O. gained 220 votes on that interval

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XHeros 9 years ago
Something is fishy.... At 9:58pm votes were RO~30% and Mabi~70% 8804votes total

now at 10:13pm its Ragnarok Online 32% Mabinogi 68% Total votes: 9285

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Random Guy 9 years ago
so derp.....

is surprising that there are so many childish comment here on both games(Mabi - RO) and calling each other cheater.......

seem almost like they're bad apples of both sides >_>

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
Okay so here's the next interval.
Total Votes—-8001—9002
Mabi %———-73%—–69%
R.O Votes—–2160—–2791
Mabi Votes—-5841—–6211


R.O. gained 260 Votes on that last interval of 1000 votes.

MMO Guy 9 years ago
Okay to illustrate what I was talking about I have some numbers for you ( I'll try to make a table but it may look bad sorry ahead of time). I'll describe the differences from Mabinogi's view point.

Total Votes----7001-----8001
Mabi %----------76%-----73%
R.O Votes-----1680-----2160
Mabi Votes----5321-----5841

Mabinogi gained by 3680-3641=39 votes even though R.O. went from 24% to 27%.

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ThePresident777 9 years ago

Sai 9 years ago
Let's go Mabi! that youtube : /watch?v=t4qq89rfacg

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Fylas 9 years ago
People in mabi are a pretty Wackly lot to be honest :P /watch?v=9A4ouCCtTPc and /watch?v=1e97bVRnLeE pretty much sums up a whole lot of the people that run around in mabi XD

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
Although the percentage for R.O. is rising this does not necessarily mean they are gaining. Mathematically speaking, the lower the percentage is, the easier it is for it to gain (in percentage). What matters are raw votes. The percentages don`t say the whole story.

If you want to see who is gaining then what you need to do is at some point you calculate the total votes cast for each candidate and then the difference between them. Wait a while and do it again. Finally calculate the difference between the two differences.

If you favor a particular candidate start with their number first and subtract the others number. When all is said and done if the difference of differences is positive your candidate is gaining, if negative the other is gaining and zero the difference between the two sums of votes is remaining constant.

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Smorez 9 years ago
Seriously a recount on Mabi and RO. Smh i believe Mabi just killed it.

BurningHorse 9 years ago
I hope the bot problem gets resolved. These are both great games and they do not need to rely on cheating to obtain large quantities of votes. Both have a pretty good fan base and quite a large number of "dedicated players" that will be willing to defend the name of their respective game.
I personally prefer Mabinogi over RO, but that is only because I love their stylized art and the amazing Celtic story line. If you have not played either of these games because they are "free to play", I suggest you try them. These games are both a ton of fun! If you are an honest fan trying to support your favorite game, I agree that cheating on either side is intolerable. Not just for the two games in question, but all the other games in this Ultimate F2P Showdown.

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Mewi 9 years ago
Pointless poll reset if you aren't even going to bother to fix the initial problem by limiting votes per IP.

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Me 9 years ago
Mabinogi will and should win for one reason: Ragnarok has SO MUCH GRINDING.

There. I said it. You lose, RO nostalgia.

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Sacriel 9 years ago
As a long time fan of RO, I have so many feels for that game. But let's be real. It's 2014, and RO has fallen so much from what it was a decade ago. That, and very few kids even know what RO is now. So many other animu MMOs have come out that are flashy and have more conventional styles of play that have almost entirely wiped the internet's memory of RO. So if Mabinogi isn't winning by at least twice as many votes, I will be surprised.

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Seth 9 years ago
Mabinogi is one of the most common game names in this comment section. Foreshadowing? Who knows.

huhua 9 years ago
lol you RO and MABI peepz too srs about this crap poll actin like kids with uncurable chuunibyou disease. Uninstall them BS, go play a real game like WoW loserz.

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XHeros 9 years ago
RO vs. Mabi.... I am finding both sides to be going childish and threatening each other so Im going to quit Mabi and go play Runescape again cause at least they did BS you all the time... might do Tera instead. Not sure but if this childishness keeps up both sides are going to lose a lot of credibility... so knock of the act and play it fair. Going to far now...

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Kryzaldo 9 years ago
I think people just need to calm down now. The polls have been reset, a poll reborn, a clean slate, a new sun has risen.

Basically, stop all this hate and get on with the show. MMOBOMB have already said they're tracking IPs and if anything suspicious crops up they will intervene, so stop this anti-(insert enemy game here) propaganda and instead show respect and root for your own game!

note: If you are going to argue about player-counts and the such: bring cold hard proof so no one can disprove you, and then, only then, will you be taken seriously.

~ Happy voting and good luck guys :D

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Supreme_Sublime 9 years ago
Ragnarok Online seems to be QQing... hard
It got reset and it's being carefully watched

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Thoruuuuu 9 years ago
sooo Mabinogi is 78 to Ragnarok Online 22 ...... Yeah I only see Ragnarok doing even worst. You guys happy now? You gonna loose even more <3

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XHeros 9 years ago
Not to be rude.... but is Ro really just 2d sprites with detailed texture? cause that's what I got from their website

Sooshi 9 years ago
How the hell is Warframe losing to APB Reloaded?
Some people have no taste in games

Koel 9 years ago
APB: Reloaded!!! FTW!!!

Talon 9 years ago
we have 3000 votes already, thats way too much for any bot or macro to pull off this quickly, can we easily assume they cheated first? because I'm pretty sure that is the case. also I don't know what Mabinogi players requested it, if everything was fair we would have won anyway.

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Unknown 9 years ago
If 3000 voters is botting for you then you must play really low player data base games ... 3000 is the total of votes and this number isn't even 1/10 of mabinogi's NA/EU player base.

Taka 9 years ago

You do know that Mabi has over 100k people on facebook and people ingame telling people to go vote right? ...Right?

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SecurityIssuesAgain 9 years ago
I wonder who is in charge for security on MMOBOMB but simply monitoring IP won't change a thing on that vote. Most kids can easily write a small tool nowadays using worldwide proxys to setup a voting bot. Reading out the MAC would be a bit more secure (you can still spoof the MAC adress but well).

Guess most honest players won't vote again anyways because some side will start botting again. I'd prefer to see both sides removed from the whole poll since it was quite obvious none of them played fair.

And also it's a funny move that many game publishers give bonuses. Most seem to vote only to get bonuses and not because of the game. So it say nothing about the community actually but only shows the grief (especially in the cheating on both sides).

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MeepMeep 9 years ago
Well the botting of RO vs Mabinogi has started already lol.

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Rumi 9 years ago
I like how it takes Mabinogi having to beat both LOTR and Pirates101 using voting bots and getting to ragnarok online for MMObomb to pull their heads out of their asses.

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dat_guy 9 years ago
3x AP = 3 month worth of ap

AP > everything else

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Taka 9 years ago
I think the reason Mabi votes spiked isn't because of cheating but because Nexon announced what would happen if they won over RO. 3x AP. In Mabinogi, that's a big thing. People would want that very very much.

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neko 9 years ago
Still no Eden Eternal vote ? =_= or i can't find the link somehow..

LordMattXLVIII 9 years ago
Sad that there's a lot of smaller games on this list that are gonna be ROFLstomped.....

I will say though that Planetside 2 is the game you should vote to win. It gets updated literally every week, the player base is a rather friendly bunch, the game itself provides a 100% unique and it provides an absolutely amazing experience.

That, and it's the most likely to make it the longest. It has a TEN YEAR DEVELOPMENT PLAN, this means that over the next FRIGGIN DECADE, this game will only get better and better, while a lot of other games will just fade into obscurity.

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MMO Guy 9 years ago
How can anyone from any game community be accused of cheating? Because folks are voting more than once? At the bottom of THIS very article it says "Vote early, VOTE OFTEN, but vote". That sounds like an endorsement to me. So this is just like American Idol where you can vote as often as you want. Where do they say you can't?

Or is it that just using bots is the issue? It's okay as long as you vote often manually? I can't see that either. If you can vote more than once as long as you do so manually, then the vote isn't nessessarily reflecting public opinion in the democratic sense but is rather a measure of game fan loyality instead. Then use of bots would be the same; a measure of game fan loyalty.

If this is meant as a pure democratic vote then make it clear and say so rather than suggest the opposite, and set it up so you can only vote once. Otherwise it's just hypocracy.

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butthurt_ro 9 years ago
time to smack ro players again when the poll come up

Thoruuuuu 9 years ago
Oh god~ It will be hard to decide which game to vote for between Planet Side 2 and Mabinogi I love them both!! Planet Side 2 is very thrilling and lively and Mabinogi is more passive and comforting but also gives more options than just combat. Decision decisions~

Cree 9 years ago
Mabinogi NA has a combination of multiple countries smacked into one server(technically 4, but w/e its one branch). I will say that I know without a doubt that both sides were cheating. But to sit and accuse one side of cheating without sitting back and looking at one self is plain hypocrisy.

drake1980 9 years ago
The problem is RO is yelling Mabinogi is cheating, but from past numbers though while I do not recall the exact number and even from a post on here showing the top last two amounts Mabinogi is second in the highest votes just under SMITE while RO did not even make it in the top 4 or 5 list.

Now with the poll being closed its not hard to see the numbers for the votes was totaly abnormal though, but going from how voting was going even on the redo and redone poll mabi would still win giving past numbers of both game votes in the last two polls.

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Voter1335 9 years ago
Well, for RO there is not only iRO, we from euro (european ro) do also participate in the vote and have a playerbase of over 20k players. If the word is also spread to other servers, let alone all the pservers in europe and USA and maybe even other official servers world wide or also inactive players I hardly doubt that Mabinogi has a chance to win.

I know that Mabinogi also has some servers around the world but I doubt it reaches ROs fanbase all-time.

But It's quite funny that Mabinogi players were also considered cheating before this vote and nothing happened before. This shows tha if those RO players wouldn't have started doing the same thing to, Mabinogi would have simply won like before. Sometimes you have to do the wrong thing to do the right thing ^^

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RO Sux Cox 9 years ago
i have played RO for 5 min instant remove from my comp it might even gave my comp fractures and desease. I mean wdf is wrong with the graphic it fking hurts my eyes and the battle system is like POKEMON CRATER LOL. i never seen a shitter game then this other than dragonfable,adventure quest, and pokemon crater. I mean those RO GET A LIFE WTF the game is like from 1950s or sometshit it is so shiettttttttttt.


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Socrates 9 years ago
Not only was the vote announced by iRO, it was also announced by rAthena the same day. They have 18k members on their own, then there's all the RO fan-sites and private communities; I wouldn't be surprised if either side of the competition used cheat tactics, but in all honesty if you're going to use a cheapass survey site with a simple "clear cookies and vote again" system, then what do you expect?

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PurpleDragoon 9 years ago
Regardless of which game wins Planetside 2 is by far the best.

Although if I were to guess a winner I would go with LOL since it has the largest player base.

LobsterFiend 9 years ago
I went to sleep last night with Mabinogi winning 78/22. Then I wake up the next day to see it become 53/47. What gives Ragnarok D:

hihiu 9 years ago
RO is a good game and I'm playing it currently and been playing for 4 years max and has a great community though I'm pretty sure it is not as large compared to Mabinogi (never gave it a try) but despite that RO only gets by since majority of folk like to spend ridiculous amounts of cash in order to go toe on toe with the old players that have been playing and accumulating wealth over the years. And not to mention the other official servers like pRO and bRO "holy shit they make a killing on hypermarket mvp cards and regular raffles LOL"

Taylor 9 years ago
Honestly, RO is good for old players. but nowadays it's awful to anyone new. mabinogi however is still fresh enough to keep people coming back.

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Kryzaldo 9 years ago
MMOBOMB announced that the polls are going to be remade tomorrow, therefore the current ones are void (I believe). Cheaters never prosper. Good luck tomorrow, and may the best one win!

(hopefully without any hate and some decent, friendly comments!)

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birdo 9 years ago
>player 1 cheats
>player 2 cheats
>both players are cheating, 2 is still winning
player 1:"Hey, you're cheating! Not fair!"
Go away.

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So much Rage 9 years ago
So much rage between these two games, dang son....
Just reading the previous comments made me go like.... What kind of crazy game are these that make their player so.... STUPID!!! like oh gawd, its not even a popularity contest, its basically a contest showing who has the stronger community awareness
Cheating on both sides? GG, tell us something that isnt from year 2000....
This game is better than that game.... No one gives a crap about your opinion, shut up and vote....
God I am glad i dont even play either game, like screw this rouge division has it rough with all these no life players who are bleeding....

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TaruKitsune 9 years ago
I vote for mabinogi c:

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Almr 9 years ago
This is disgusting.

I've been seeing that number tick up like clockwork, all for one game in particular that's pulled away with a steady % per hour. Mabi :P

I was even in the process of downloading that game and giving it a try, but I really don't want to support or encourage such blatant cheating. I can only imagine what the game must be like, and it couldn't possibly be friendly with all this trash-talking I'm seeing.

I wonder if they'll script votes in the Rogue div finals.

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In Her Name 9 years ago
Well I'm ashamed that my community is cheating, but it comes down to this...

If we were to make a fair poll where no one could vote more than once and set it up between Mabinogi and Ragnarok Online in which there was no intervention between any other community - it would be only your version of Ragnarok (RO2 and other localized versions of the original can stay out) and only us as Mabinogi NA (no overseas servers or supportive players from other games) then I'd say Ragnarok Online would still lose. We've rallied our community rather well, the supportive non-cheaters are enough to carry us swiftly to victory.

Ronoah 9 years ago
Nice votes, mabinogi. Enjoy those bots and proxies.

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Mewi 9 years ago
Mmmm the Vote Bots are tasty.

Ross 9 years ago
Haven't even heard of Mabinogi but it's got my vote because it looks interesting not to mention RO (more like GAGnarok online) is so boring and horrible that it has to rely on private servers to get people interested.

Nimadebi 9 years ago
I've played RO and mabinogi for years, but mabinogi is a game I keep coming back.

Fierlyt 9 years ago
Goodness... the hype for Mabi on here is ridiculous! Haha. My opinion: LoL is going to beat Path of Exile in votes, but Path of Exile should win in my opinion as being a better game. That's an opinion though. Then you have Planetside vs. Mabi... That is going to be a tough call. Winner of that will probably be a good competitor for the throne either way. Maplestory vs. Smite? Never heard of Smite. My assumption is that people will do whatever possible to stop Maplestory vs. Mabinogi for the throne. It could still happen. For Wizard I see Warframe taking it but not being a competitor for the top spot. It's going to come down to LoL, Maplestory, or Planetside/Mabinogi for winner. My bias is with Mabinogi, but I don't see why it needs to win besides that I think it should. The other 3 are great games in their own right... I still think PoE should beat LoL, but I'm not hopeful and it honestly has no chance against Maplestory or Planetside/Mabinogi where LoL could be a fierce competitor...

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Krauth 9 years ago
Go Ragnarok Online!!!!

tachiorz 9 years ago
mabinogi is better than all those games altogether

Izzy 9 years ago
Go Ragnarok Online! Go go go!!!

Taka 9 years ago
Now why is the vote count of the RO vs Mabi match increasing by about 2 votes every second or so in favor of RO? Hmmm...

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Rolfski 9 years ago
Planetside 2 all the way. It's by far the most epic shooter out there. The scale has to be experienced to be believed and the game is getting improved literally every week. Soon out on PS4 as well.

ThatGuyHatesYou 9 years ago
Too many mabinogi fanboy/fangirl on here. Mabinogi isn't that interesting, once you finish the story, not much left to do except pay 2 win to get stronger. In the end I voted for RO, unlike Mabinogi, RO is a true MMO.

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Scar 9 years ago
March 7, 2014 at 12:06 pm
I can see Mabinogi potentially losing once it faces RO. RO has better music, older fanbase, amazing art, and has lived in private servers for long after the official servers went down. Plus, it will have renewed interest as people look forward to Tree of Savior online.

Also, Mabinogi gets some default hate for being Nexon, and the pets/reforges create a very negative pay2win experience.

As far as I can tell, the divisions are all locked.

No telling what might happen after that tho.


CodyJenkins 9 years ago

SPabu 9 years ago

Locked Girl 9 years ago
Go Mabi!

sike 9 years ago
RO is the best

Mephisto Pheles 9 years ago
Ohhh Kill em Mabi

beach_ass_nigga 9 years ago
mabinogi kicking RO ass

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thetrue 9 years ago
Mabinogi :D

AJaSeI 9 years ago
TERA & Mabinogi

Droha 9 years ago
Ragnarok Online All the way. RO is the mother of all MMORPGs.
Being released in 2003(if im not mistaken) has a good player and fan base. RO will beat Mabinogi. And will go all the way !

RO Woo Hoo !

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neko 9 years ago
Gogo Eden Eternal :D

Aromore 9 years ago
I currently play Warframe, and I’m loving it. I haven’t been on Mabinogi for like 2 years. Between the two though, I’d say mabinogi is a better game. DevCat knows how to make a game original and good. It’s been 9 years since Mabinogi came out, and I literally haven’t seen another game like it.

Sorry for the double post. I made the same paragraph in another reply if anyone saw it.

work in progress (mstch qustn) 9 years ago
mabinogi and tf2 is all i play. these 2 are all that i will be voting for. enough said.

Mewi 9 years ago
Sorry! Ragnarok Online is the only real MMORPG here! No channels for chu MMO wannabes!!! Lets do this!
MapleStory > STWOR sorry not enough fanboys Vader

League of Legends > Tera Online , sorry not enough eyecandy Elins

Ragnarok Online > Star Trek Online , RO doesn't come with PWE greedy gamble fest.

uhh Eden Eternal??? > Who the heck knows Ragnarok Online will own them all


Ragnarok Online vs League of Legends

Two entirely different games. No winners or losers, League of Legends will win due to still being relevant.

TheySuckedXD 9 years ago
I love how Mabinogi's players think that spamming alt accounts in the chat is gonna make them win.
Mabinogi is horrible in my opinion I tried to play and it was just a nightmare.
Go smite!
Go Team Fortress 2!

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_Xion 9 years ago
RO 1

Hadra 9 years ago
League of Legends FTW!!!!!!!

Clooby 9 years ago
No way RO can lose to Mabinogi.

Omitsu 9 years ago
Ragnarok Online all the way

pertreonsmtie 9 years ago
Smite for warrior divison PLEA

bibimpap 9 years ago
I hope Mabinogi wins the rogue division, but I wonder how big Planet Side 2's player base is..... And as for a thread way up above about what constitutes an MMO, if people simply read the definition of MOBA and MMO I think it is pretty straight forward, as well as the fact that Massively Multiplayer in and of itself would mean many, many players playing together all at once, not separated into small games with no relation- which would be Massive Multiplayer.

Hadra 9 years ago
League of Legends! :D Maplestory too!

Razje 9 years ago
SMITE all the way!!

ARhino 9 years ago
i vote warframe, best game on this year!

HYPERemtA405 9 years ago
I vote for Warframe.
Warframe is the best!

trams87 9 years ago
I vote for Warframe, lets take our Kubrows into action!

Dulla 9 years ago
APB must win! there is no way!!

Kitomi 9 years ago
Mabinogi all the way! I have stopped playing this game three or four times along with several others because of real life obligations, I just recently picked it up again and OH MY GOD I LOVE IT!

Dude... they even put SHAKESPEARE in the game!

Fidens Libertas 9 years ago
Mabinogi is an awesome game. one of the best thing about it is that it doesn't use a tank based battle system like other MMO games.

for those curious a tank based battle system is where you attack an enemy(they don't flinch from taking a sword to the face) and they attack you(you don't flinch either) and you basically keep attacking each other till 1 of you dies. it's like a race to get your enemy's HP to zero first and you could practically just go afk and let the whole battle happen itself.

Mabinogi uses a tactical battle system where you must observe your enemy's actions and react to them to gain the upper hand. the battle does not happen automatically like with a tank based battle system. you have to stay active and aware of everything that's happening during the battle. this gives you a chance to actually show your skills for what they are.

another great thing about Mabinogi is character development. it is done in a variety of ways all at the same time(or almost all) and there is like no end to how far you can develop your character(s), no matter how much you develop you character(s) there is always room for improvement unlike many other MMO where your development stops once you've reached the level cap. in Mabinogi i am almost level 3000 and not only am i not even close to my fullest potential but even at this high level there are still enemies that are many, many times stronger than me yet despite that as long as i'm not rash, am smart enough and if possible have good friends at my side i can defeat these enemies that are way stronger than me.

another appeal of Mabinogi is the very friendly community. no one has called me a noob in Mabinogi and i've never seen anyone call anyone else a noob. calling other players noobs is a problem i have seen in many other MMO.

another appeal of Mabinogi is that it doesn't have a class system. say you're a skilled archer but you suddenly decide you want to use a sword, Many other MMO wouldn't let you do that but in Mabinogi you can just put the bow/crossbow aside and equip a sword. you archery skills will remain as good as they are while you are perfecting your sword skills so if you decide to go back to archery you won't have to restart your training.

if culture and/or mythology is appealing to you then you're in luck, Mabinogi draws from pre-christian Irish mythology. (and before you say Ragnarok Online is based on Norse mythology remember that game is based on a Korean comic based on Norse mythology so Ragnarok Online draws its mythology inspire theme from a secondary source where as Mabinogi draw it from a primary source)

one final appeal to Mabinogi is that its theme of fantasy life is strongly present, say you don't want to do battles, then you can be a cook, a blacksmith, a tailor and plenty of other things, you don't want to go into dangerous dungeons and such to get the materials then have other players escort you or have them get it for you. you can reward them by making them swords, armors, food and other items of higher quality than what you'd find in an NPC shop. while you do this and other things your relationship with other players will get stronger and while you're at it seek romance, Mabinogi has a marriage system and even a family system where married couples can adopt other players as their kids thus forming a family. this game took the life concept of fantasy life to a new level.

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Kelly 9 years ago
Er, really, who even made this list? It just takes purely random mmos and put them together. Also with no references to genre or category. Rpg with shooters? How can you compare them? What does rogue or warrior division even mean? Because they have no connection. And it seems the mmo being compared are very randomized. There are other mmo that should be in this list, and some needs to be taken out.

Ali 9 years ago
^.^ Mabinogi won another round. :) We're winning.

Mephisto Pheles 9 years ago
Mabinogi Kill em take out Ragnarok online(this online game that I have never heard about until now)

Wizard101andPirate101 9 years ago
Wizard101 rules boo warframe

Nendo 9 years ago

Habimaru 9 years ago
Not enough Aliens. Need more Aliens~

Nucifera 9 years ago

Name (Required) 9 years ago
warframe is the best

JustinBoomer 9 years ago
people cheating there vote so, others so, be possible vote only higher so, can't win

100% bet MMOBomb showdown for best music on TV (Bet: The Naked Brothers Band) BEAT those Jonas Brothers & Big Time Rush & Justin Bieber

free realms win more was in Showdown (Would Beat Legend of Angel) lol (don't going happen) shutting down forever (Mostly Sick of Disney People winning Kids Choice Awards)

only game don't like Plant vs Zombies (But Lot of People Love It Allot) bet they would win they was nominees

and they already made video game for Xbox One made: Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfar
watch that video on ZackScottLive

Thinking when Xbox 360 (Don't Sell) No Opinion show pick next: Xbox one or PS4?

bet XBOX ONE WIN MORE THEN PS4 (don't need tv for it) xD


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JustinBoomer 9 years ago
Wizard101 & Pirate101 best games better then others (people told me MABINOG cheating be unfair vote) Happy Wizard101 (There Spiral going chance forever!) Wizard getting new level so, spell coming more DANGEROUS ^0^

which I love it :)

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Doreen 9 years ago
Mabinogi ^__^

why 9 years ago
If Mabinogi’s combat or gameplay isn’t unqiue, please I really want to know if there’s anything actually like it.

You know, combo oriented combat that’s kind of similar to a fighting game, in that you have to consider positioning but also what attacks are viable where they all basically stun the enemy. Not just targeting an enemy and pressing a button to use a skill, or just doing so in sequence while minding the fire on the floor, I mean actually considering damage types, which attacks will keep you from being retaliated against and whether or not its viable based on your position etc. Tera isn’t really like that, WoW or any of the standard MMOs aren’t like that, seriously what is?

I think Mabinogi is a spectacular game because of its combat, not to mention the fact that its supposed to have something for everybody like life skills or music, tons of clothes and a really social community, but god damnit is the administration horrific. The engine is old, you get your occasional hacking outbreaks, and in some cases its pretty pay to win (Yes, I’m talking about reforges, you can get a lot more potential damage out of reforges as compared to a skill/stat hoarding build, and is also just an RNG gamble)

but the reason Im asking is because I love the combat more than any other MMO I have ever played. Its completely unique, as far as I can tell, which makes me feel like its completely under-rated, unless theres another game out there with similar combat or concept, in that case: i want to play it

reposted because i need other things to play but im picky as hell

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ThemCheaters 9 years ago
MABINOGI is just full of cheaters I mean have you look at the forums they are telling ways you can multiple vote at least pirate101 is going down being fair.

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katie 9 years ago
APB best game ever no argument thats just fact and you cant argue with factual statements. APB wins.

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Kyuuby 9 years ago
The amount of retarded people raging over this orz, just reading through this is too funny, not fair? not a legit matchup? informing companies is wrong? #killyourself.... IIm sure people is gonna rip on any comment being positive for this but meh, I could care less, people... and eat my horrible spelling and grammer =D
Popularity contest of obviously a random selection of mmo with a decent amount of players
Informed companies so they can let the players know instead of limiting it to the mmobomb community only, plus wider coverage of the contest
Not created to suit you freaken needs of specific titles
The line up is not in any particular order or of age of existance
Losers bracket? what is this? 1 bracket of specific genre games? no reason to have it since its basically showing who has a more active community or a community that cares
people hating on cash shop prices? you make me sick.... sure free to play should be balanced but I havent even seen games that litterally breaks the game by selling shit to their players to keep the game alive.... it cost money to maintain games and server people, understand that... ill understand if its like 1 shot kill weapons in fps games but in mmos, who gives a shit, their money, their advantedge, apparently people who rage about cash items are people who don't spend money at all to help the game they obviosuly like. IE: Mabinogi reforges imbalanced? Cash shop only? people sell them on a daily basis for a reasonable price.... 200-300k, which is easy as hell to make, even with only a low lvl character. AK eidoloians limited to cash shop? ITS freaken tradable people...... buy it from players....
Some people just look for trouble over the dumbest things....
Awaits the rage of people....
Oh... and.....

Mabinogi 9 years ago

ookie 9 years ago
let's hope next time they only do the games that truly are Free To Play .... not Free To TRY AT A HANDICAPPED LEVEL UNTIL YOU COUGH UP THE SUBSCRIPTION MONEY

Mabinogi all the freedom to develop characters, ability to choose genders, races, classes to choose from which is a warrior with high levels of magic that's not too shabby with a bow that's character creation

take a break from battling to do crafting, farming, fishing, or just hanging out......sometimes when i can't sleep i kick on Mabi....take of my characters (you get 3 of em for FREE) to sit under a tree away from everything to listen to the birds chirp overlooking Maiz Prairie then just drift off to sleep

your first character (usually human) is totally you play you come across two different races from which you get an assist character from each ....totally free...and can play as any one of them you can even play as one of your pets if you want in order to train them up so they can better help in battle IF you need them....and now we can transform into different creatures ourselves to take on their skills while transformed....totally awesome game

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Kocho 9 years ago
Mabinogi! ^_^

Ataw 9 years ago
Mabinogi!!! Luving it

Otusan 9 years ago
Mabinogi 4 3ever !!!

Tinkerbell23 9 years ago
i really like mabinogi i've been playing since March 2012

OLDMS 9 years ago

=w= 9 years ago
...and mmobomb falls behind on its contest.

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Malvic 9 years ago
Blacklight is purely the best fps out there today ghost is nice, but blr for the win..

2to2gunner 9 years ago
I have played both and cleary,Mabinogi and and will beat pirate101

Raegar 9 years ago
Hey, shouldn't we be on Cleric Division round 2 by now?

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Adolfo 9 years ago

Drake 9 years ago
I really hope Maple wins! Maple is my favorite :D

ps4 9 years ago

Haku 9 years ago
Im loving this competition but its sad that Vindictus already lost
I can see Nexon games going far such as Maple and Mabi
But LoL and TF2 can win this

daltonjuly 9 years ago
voto por Maplestory es el mejor juego del mundo

Jessarica 9 years ago
Warrior division: SMITE
Cleric division: League of Legends
Rogue division: PlanetSide 2
Wizard division: Warframe <333

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antonsawa 9 years ago
i was playing wizard101 but it steals peoples money so can you just put it away from this competition

LobsterFiend 9 years ago
I'll vote for Warframe if you vote for Mabinogi. huehuehuehue. Seriously though, I think they're both very original games. ♥♪♥♪

Ice 9 years ago
Warrior : Maplestory
Cleric: LoL

Sooshi 9 years ago
Warrior: TF2
Cleric: League of Legends
Rogue: Mabinogi
Wizard: Warframe

No contest

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peaches1956 9 years ago
The best game i have played is wizard101 i love that game i hope wizard101 wins they say vote but where in the world do you vote when you can't find where to vote :(

Lindapham 9 years ago
Where is Champions of Regnum???? Those games selected are all inferior to Regnum!

hovsep 9 years ago
seriously? mabinogi vs pirate 101? mabinogi wins hands down pirate 101 is not even f2p but just a demo in mabi they solved the inventory isue by giving everyone free inventory plus service PERMANENTLY and they solved the mounts issue by giving lots of eventswich give mounts and give a free permanent horse and fly mount to all beginners while pirate 101 just lets you play 1 part of the story and thats it

wizard101lover 9 years ago
WIZARD101 hands down!!!!!!!!!

K 9 years ago
Warframe is obviously the best game you can play for free! Guns, aweseom enemies, and aweseom characters. What game could be better?

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I'm awesome 9 years ago
Um... Have you guys noticed, in the wizard section, wizard101? That's the best. It has the most players I've ever seen in an mmo. Over 3 frickin million people play it! That had better win.

WizardMeSilly 9 years ago
Wizard Division here - Specifically Wizard101!

Lonnie 9 years ago
i say Star Wars the old Republic

Alesheyra 9 years ago
Warframe gained 1000+ votes in roughly the last 10 minutes after Vindictus was holding a lead on it up until then. Something doesn't seem right.

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Jacquie 9 years ago
Why can't I vote in the LOTRO vs. Mabinogi poll? It keeps saying I already voted, but I didn't.

Kristen 9 years ago
Star wars the old republic and Mabinogi are my games.

Castellan Widain 9 years ago

Eomyn 9 years ago

kromachine 9 years ago
the lord of the rings online is the bestt mmo from 2007.all the player who have already play this game 50+ lvls cant compare and say what i mean.the only mmo with dx11 full engines and more.stop to play manga games!

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Leoville 9 years ago
Lord of the Rings online

Stan B 9 years ago

Flosiin 9 years ago
Lord of the Rings online

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Yuen 9 years ago
Nah it's called FB.

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Naonao 9 years ago
Yeah, this isn't fairrrrrr

Aramu 9 years ago
I agree. Been watching it for the past half hour and the voting is super consistent.

grandeurimi101 9 years ago

Elusir 9 years ago
The Lord of the Rings Online

Caitlyn of Mari 9 years ago
Best graphs, best storyline, amazing player community, dungeons, dragons, and music!!!!!!! Mabinogi is the best MMO I have played and that is the truth

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MindShock 9 years ago
Age of Wushu, best MMO I ever play but has support flaws, really unique and not a MMO clone.

Keeny 9 years ago
Star Trek online all day long.

GP 9 years ago
City of Heroes was the BEST.. Hands down!

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Apples Cry At Night 9 years ago
is there even a question to who is the best?
its obviously mabinogi
but this is really just a popularity contest, and the sheer amount of people playing games like games like dota means we might not win.

shad0wriderz 9 years ago
Maplestory. You have to get it, to get it.

Danielifz 9 years ago

Wahu 9 years ago
Mabinogi. Definitely Mabinogi.

jamiekins 9 years ago
Star Trek Online.

NamedByAFish 9 years ago
Just an educated guess: In Round 2 of Rogue, Runescape will crush STO, 85-15 (at least)

Rogh 9 years ago
No games that have been shut down, but you use Statesman from City of Heroes on the banner.
Nice, guys.

RIP Paragon Studios.

mjaybird 9 years ago
I vote for Star Trek Online and Hawken. great games

Kyon 9 years ago
Go Mabinogi! =D

=w= 9 years ago
So far, none of these polls have been quite like the one between Aura Kingdom and SMITE.

Orb 9 years ago
In the name of Ferghus, we shall prevail!

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sirchrehpo 9 years ago

reqvo 9 years ago
Blacklight Retribution!

darkchaos125 9 years ago
Mabinogi All the Way!


Katieee 9 years ago
Excuse me for a moment while I scream 'Mabinogi' out of my window. I hope y'all can hear me.

Atrixter 9 years ago

Lena 9 years ago
Mabi is the best! It was the only one that I played and still playing for so long~~ Aura is cool too, but mabi definitly is the best >w< GOGO!!

Saiphax 9 years ago
Mabinogi of course. I have tried some others, never what I wanted. But Mabi never lets me leave. it deserves to win- FOR ERINNN!!!!!

AH25 9 years ago
Halo must be an MMO, too. It's like saying Bomberman Online is an MMO. It isn't, it has it's moments of outdated fun, but it isn't. Anything online is not necessarily an MMO. Many online games can't really be considered an MMO because they're not entirely M, M, or O. They can have MO, but that wouldn't make it MMO. "Massive" or "Massively", that varies, as well, doesn't it? 100 can be a lot for little games, even in Phantasy Star Online's private servers, back in the days, 250 on average, that's a lot..

MMO does not limit itself to genre, hence it's use. Some people use MMOG, G being game. If you really want to be definitive, it doesn't mean that whatever is MMO has to be a game.

MMOs are usually labeled without a genre because that's simply what they wind up as.
What person is this game in? Third? Thus, you add a T. MMOTP. Now what kind of game is this, a racing, or a shooter? MMOTPS.

Nothing is really an MMO, because everything is an MMO. Otherwise everyone would say, "What OGs are you playing?"

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RogersRainheart 9 years ago
The best mmorpg is vindictus right now.
It would be tera but tera has one problem that is way too big to ignore.

15rt3p9ch5n 9 years ago
Mabinogi at almost 2500

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10v5m1ch9n5 9 years ago
Mabinogi has a better online community than any other games. #Sabina

Tai 9 years ago
MABINOGI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BOI lets goooooooo~

0.o 9 years ago

Shisu 9 years ago

Hidu.E 9 years ago
Mabinogi in it to win it up in cloud-9 with 2k votes, while the rest are down suckin my big toe with no more than 500 votes. #Getrhaped.

Sam T. 9 years ago

Mimi 9 years ago
Mabinogi <3

Cookiemonsterrr 9 years ago

Marko 9 years ago

Mel 9 years ago

Reihu 9 years ago

monique baks 9 years ago

Lynn 9 years ago

Bloom 9 years ago

Aonova 9 years ago
mabinogi for sure
already past 2k
keep it up guys

Mooks101 9 years ago

Lunajack 9 years ago
Mabinogi gogogogogogogogogogoggogo.

TaruKitsune 9 years ago
Mabinogi <3

Xolar 9 years ago
Honestly, I tried alot of F2P games, but most of those games I just drop. Mabinogi on the other hand always made me want to come back. Yes, people complain about the graphics, but imo I think Mabinogi is really a one of a kind game that mixes combat, social, and life skills. Best thing I like? No level cap or level requirements for equipments~!

Mega 9 years ago
Mabinogi is THE BEST

Tony 9 years ago
Mabinogi ftw

Oktayvia 9 years ago

Legiathan 9 years ago
Mabinogi is the best F2P i have ever played.

Pinky 9 years ago
Mabinogi definitely!!

Jujuji 9 years ago
Mabinogi is the best F2P out there!

Devilcore 9 years ago

Jcentral1 9 years ago
Pirate101 is the best!

Otusan 9 years ago
Mabinogi <3<3<3

Lerace1 9 years ago

Lenaly 9 years ago

renegade739 9 years ago
Mabinogi NO DOUBT!!!

CottonCandy 9 years ago

Johnny 9 years ago
Mabi with 1000+ votes and counting

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Captain Hachi 9 years ago
Mabinogi its obviously gonna win this xD

Ghoulnessstuff 9 years ago
Mabinogi for the win! No one F2P game is anything like this game.

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Yudhawee 9 years ago
an old game with such a lot of feature i tell you, yes this vote is for Mabinogi!

pawcalypse 9 years ago
Mabinogi, all the way!

Mabigaurdian 9 years ago

Code 9 years ago
Mabinogi and Vindictus all the way to the Finals, let's make this happen!

MNW7 9 years ago
VOTE FOR MABINOGI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Orb 9 years ago
Mabinogi les do dis

Rayka 9 years ago
i played Aura Kingdom and i can say that is worth to play if it come out at 2010 not 2014 xP

Mabinogi FTW

Sai 9 years ago
Mabinogi has my vote as all time greatest. Once you try it. It is the last game you will ever play.

Herolies 9 years ago
Blacklight Retribution :3

Dusknnoir 9 years ago
The Aura Kingdom fanboys can suck it. Smite FTW

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lol 9 years ago
You could've put all of this in one poll rather than making really shitty comparisons with a whole lot of really shitty games.

Atheos 9 years ago
At least Two-Thirds of these games are pay-to-win. That should automatically disqualify them from winning a "Free to Play" showdown.

Mesirix 9 years ago
League of Legends, cleric division

Zing 9 years ago
Well League of Legends is probably the best game.

Brett 9 years ago
What a tease. I see Statesman in the picture and got pumped to support City of Heroes, even though NCSoft are idiots. Then, no CoH to be found. I hate you guys.

RprShadow 9 years ago
Aww yeah Archeblade for 1st place.

=w= 9 years ago
So the deadline for voting already passed, but polls are still receiving votes. Nice.

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derp 9 years ago
Just because they're f2p doesn't mean you have to match fps against a mmorpg game. :s

rudzupuke25 9 years ago
Heroes and Generals,pretty good game instead of adding this one steam adds only high price aplha version games.And HG is for free low budged games,sometimes server maintanence make me crazy,but im playing this one about 1 year.

tiktactocn 9 years ago
no city of steam: arkadia?

what a useless showdown
and this website is stupid

rico 9 years ago
LOL this is bullshit! you cant compare a mmo whit a fps.........

Cacalips 9 years ago
Phantasy Star Online 2 I am playing right now (ENglish patch). Best game I have played in a long time. Makes all your other F2P titles look like poo covered in dihareah

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Rebelkilla 9 years ago
Waw...nice genre comparison mmofps vs. mmorpg /moba v.s rpg . To bad this site didn't put card game vs. fps XD Rubbish comparison tho..

Jason Winter 9 years ago
As for the overall question of "Why are you matching up an MMO against an FPS?" -- this isn't about picking the best FPS or MMO, but the best F2P game overall. I, and I'd bet many of you, have played both FPSes and MMOs (and MOBAs). If, say, TF2 and DDO, face off in the second round, I'd decide which I like more because I've played both. I doubt many people here are limited to just one type of game, no more than you're limited to one type of movie, or book, or TV show. I can say I prefer Star Trek to Law & Order, and nobody's going to say "One of those is sci-fi and the other is a legal drama, you can't compare those!"

Besides, even if we did do the first-round matchups in a way to only match MMO vs. MMO, FPS vs. FPS, etc., they would get all messed up in later rounds, like in the TF2/DDO example above. Finally, people will rarely agree on the category a game belongs in (like the Hawken debate), so why bother?

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Seigfrith 9 years ago
Path of exile
Dota 2

seah jeremy 9 years ago
dota 2 vs ragnarok online? wat kinda match up is that? they're 2 completely different types of games.

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DubGuYSeven 9 years ago
1:::: 16,9,5,13,6,3,10,15

PYRO 9 years ago

Smite4lyf 9 years ago
Smite doesn't even need bribes to get votes, one reddit post and down goes some random ass game I've never heard of.

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Drew 9 years ago
Champions online

lolz 9 years ago
anyone else notice that within a short period of time the Smite vs AK matchup has 10x the votes of ANY OTHER MATCHUP... maybe these should have been the number 1 and 2 seeds instead of pitted against each other in round 1. just sayin

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Lmao mmobomb 9 years ago
You're just putting up games against eachother without even having the games know it? aura kingdom somehow figured this out and now they are bribing their players with 50% exp boosts while smite still havent said it to anyone and probably wasnt told either terrible showdown.

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WHAT? 9 years ago
Who the fk made this? Smite vs AK, lol god this site need help.

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Merkadis 9 years ago
Seriously, they doing sh!tty job at match ups… matching tf2, a widely known and popular game, with something.. i don’t even know wtf is this game.. i never even heard of it? are you f@ckin’ for real mmo bomb? wtf are you doing lol use ur brains a little will ya? x_x

One of the worst match ups ever… nuff said.

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jo 9 years ago
This should be really fun.

Merkadis 9 years ago
Bad timing, just when aura kingdom with its aeria-incited hype had launched...
Now all the AK fanboys are gonna vote for that piece of crap -_-"
Anyways, in the list theres only 2 titles that worth my time, tf2 and dungeons and dragons, rest is either junk or not my thing.
And whats up with the match-ups? you match dotas and rpgs? and rpgs with shooters? what point, if any, is there in doing that? at least divide the stuff by cathegory and genres.

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Madoka4321 9 years ago
Aura kingdom

Nyx 9 years ago
Aura Kingdom <3

Risa 9 years ago
Aura Kingdom

ThunderGrave 9 years ago





Aura Kingdom

Dust 514

Star Wars the Old Republic.

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Its Batman 9 years ago
Dead Island: Epidemic > All. Newbs.

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Braxtor 9 years ago
Hawken for Warrior Division.

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Itachi 9 years ago

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Mounted 9 years ago
Mounted son

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