Hi-Rez has done several not so popular things over the past few months. These things have in so many words…cast doubt over the developers ability, or willingness to support their titles in the long run.




After all, the developer only recently shut down all of their official forums and announced no future updates for Tribes: Ascend. So naturally when it came time to discuss the future of SMITE, players were concerned over whether Hi-Rez would also close the curtain on SMITE once Global Agenda 2 -Hi-Rez’s next upcoming title- launches.

In an effort to reassure fans, Hi-Rez’s CEO Erez Goren posted a thread titled “What will Hi-Rez do with SMITE?” on the official SMITE Reddit page. In the thread Goren did something unexpected, he broke down the apparent financial failings of Global Agenda and Tribes Ascend.

According to Goren, both Global Agenda and Tribes Ascend were not profitable. Despite continued content creation, both games apparently suffered from a continued decline in user base. When it was all said and done, Global Agenda and Tribes: Ascend cost the developer close to $40 million while only seeing a return of around $10 million. A majority of the money came from Goren’s own personal funding.

SMITE on the other hand, is Hi-Rez’s golden goose, one the developer intends to keep happy and healthy. Goren recants the MOBA’s success in the post when he says:

Smite is one of those rare games that’s actually growing every month, and is also profitable. This is allowing us to grow the Smite team and deliver weekly updates and content (from 15 people initially to about 80 people now). In addition, many outside publishers were interested in Smite and we are fortunate enough to have made a deal with Tencent who is the most prestigious partner we can have for our type of game.

Given everything we know Smite should have a long and successful future which is why we are very excited as a company and continue to work our butts off to make Smite the best Moba game in the world.

So it appears as of now, all is well for SMITE; but what about Tribes: Ascend? Recently, Hi-Rez made mention of the possibility of adding mod support to the FPS, giving players the opportunity to continue development. According to the Reddit post, this is no longer an option.

Speaking specifically about Tribes: Ascend, Goren spoke about community created content stating:

Some people have asked for us to provide more tools for community content creation, but our infrastructure and development platform does not support that ability well and the cost and time to develop those features is extremely high.

Oh so this was all just off the record then? The gesture of transparency is nice to see from a developer, however it is still only a gesture. Actions are what speak louder than words and as of now Hi-Rez’s previous actions have spoken loud and clear. A good way for Hi-Rez to win back the overwhelming support of their player-base would be to use some of SMITE’s profitability to finish what was promised only a few short months ago.

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  1. Anonymous on September 16, 2013

    I wonder how much of that 40 million was spent on Tribes, getting close to the level of failure that the original launch of APB was if he’s telling the truth.

  2. Lithkul on September 13, 2013

    …..Hi-rez needs to grow up, they violated their own communities trust not once but several times and the most recent time was even a legal violation, every time the community wanted them to do something they said no and did something else. Tribes: Ascend they made into a E-sports game and never even tried to produce half the promises they made. They completely ignored community advice and tried to go away from the Tribes Franchise as they could. I had friends literally waiting to spend money on Tribes:Ascend if they actually kept in the real spirit of Tribes which they never did. For global Agenda…they didn’t even bother finishing the game, updating it, patching it, creating enough battlegrounds or anything. So yeah, I’m not about to play anymore of their games when they won’t even respect their consumers legal rights.

  3. Jakoul on September 13, 2013

    Um.. what? I think the reason Tribes and Global Agenda are doing bad is simply because they are bad games. With the exception of some hardcore fans (every game gets them) most people can’t stand playing the same game for months let alone years.

    I mean, Tribes is just gotta go fast with trick shots and Global Agenda has more key spamming than PVP in an MMORPG. Meanwhile Smite is a 3D view moba which makes it a hell of a lot more fun.

    Is it really any surprise Tribes and Global Agenda are so dead? Honestly, kudos to Hi-Rez for not flat out killing the games like most developers/publishers would.

  4. Hank on September 13, 2013

    Global Agenda was an amazing game. I hope they can deliver again with #2. If not i hope to enjoy it for the first 2 months before they shut down it’s forums and all future development. Thanks Hi-Rez!

  5. MidgetPanda on September 13, 2013

    NOO global agenda was so cool! GIVE ME GA 2 NOW OR ELSE I WILL BLOW UP THE OFFICE BUILDING HI-REZ WORKS IN!!! jk but this is basically what I feel like right now. 🙁

  6. zabisukex on September 13, 2013

    Smite ROCKS!!!!

  7. Reavermyst on September 12, 2013

    I really don’t trust Hi-Rez at this point. I think the largest reason behind the decline is their shutting down of the forums. By doing that, they’ve practically removed the notion of a official community and, at the same time, created a social disconnect within their titles making them less interesting. Add to their other questionable practices, who would want to support them?

    If Hi-Rez wanted their games to profit, they should’ve focused on their player base by giving them a reason to support them by creating content folks would be interested in paying for and creating content that would keep players invested in their titles. An example of what they’re doing wrong, is seen in their plans for the newest Global Agenda game(which I’m unsure about that even be a thing at this point) is going to be a competitive game and everything else that made the last installment pretty fun. If they went for that but improved on the previous game’s mechanics, they could’ve impressed a much larger crowd.

    So really, they’re just making piss poor design decisions in their games and in the end, we get rushed games that fail to keep our attention.

    • Bic Boi on September 12, 2013

      I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; they’re too shady. They hurt their credibility with their stupid killing of the forums and questionable business practices. I could care less about any insight or overt apologies–it’s a well known fact that people will say anything to get out of a bind.

      • The_Watcher on September 13, 2013

        True they have have to take action, and show us they us they will change their ways.

      • Bear on September 13, 2013

        cry moar, they closed the forums more likely because barely anyone used them in the grand scheme of things.
        It was a waste of money, time and effort to keep up.

        Killing off two bad, dead games to focus on the thriving, good game, and the new upcoming one, makes perfect sense.

        • Reavermyst on September 13, 2013

          I was going to take you seriously, but your first two words only made me think a bit more about who I was talking to. If you like Hi-Rez so much, why are you representing them in the form of a “Cry more I’m a dick because it’s the internet” trope that DRIVES PEOPLE AWAY?

          Bit counter productive there chief :/ Just saying.

        • You Sir Are An Idiot on September 14, 2013

          Hi-Rez did not closed the forums because they werent used by players often,they closed them cause they were getting hit big time at the forums,by many ppl,so it was easier to close the forums and use the FB,cause it is faster to delete sb’s post on fb.
          Also you cannot say that Tribes is a dead game,many ppl are playing it every day,the only problem with it is that it was made with a very bad cash shop,so everyone either didnt buy almost anything or they bought the bundle that contains everything just for 30€

          • Bic Boi on September 15, 2013

            Exactly! That’s exactly what I said. It’s quicker to close the forum and silence people speaking out against them. If anyone reading these posts seriously thinks that studios or corporations of ANY kind care about you, you are officially blinded by capitalism.

            Also to Bear; lemme ask you a serious question. Does Hi-Rez pay you to fellate their corrupt cock or do you do that for free because you love it so much?

  8. ale on September 12, 2013

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  10. ale on September 12, 2013

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