“Moderate based on quality, not opinion. Well written and interesting content can be worthwhile, even if you disagree with it.”

That’s copied direct from Reddit’s “rediquette” FAQ and yet this week we’ve got another mod who believes he/she can control conversation that might be viewed as unflattering toward the game covered in a subreddit. Last week, it was WildStar, and this week it’s ArcheAge.

A mod going by the name NSA-SURVEILLANCE — yes, all caps — has posted a “New changes, new rules” thread on the ArcheAge subreddit banning any talk of the game being pay-to-win and even utilizing a bot to help with moderation. As with the WildStar situation, it’s understandable to take action if these types of conversations are taking over the subreddit, especially if they veer into nastiness, as such things are wont to do. But making a sweeping edit like this, even to “well written and interesting content,” seems rather against Reddit’s overall open policy and stifles legitimate discussion.

The thread itself has already been locked down, with several comments deleted. NSA-SURVEILLANCE promises that “Fixes can be made if you think we’ve done it the wrong way.” The WildStar mod who banned F2P/B2P talk was removed from his position, so it’ll be interesting to see how things go here. Grab your popcorn, folks.

(Hat-tip to MassivelyOP for the link!)

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Jason Winter is a veteran gaming journalist, he brings a wide range of experience to MMOBomb, including two years with Beckett Media where he served as the editor of the leading gaming magazine Massive Online Gamer. He has also written professionally for several gaming websites.

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  1. Drium on May 22, 2015

    A Skyforge moderator on the Skyforge forums tried to do the same thing.

    Threatened to ban anyone who talked about the game being Pay 2 Win because they can’t deal with bad press when the game isn’t even released yet.

    Usually that’s what we call a sign your game is going to crash.

  2. Todoran on May 21, 2015

    Ugly looking clone of existing mmos,pay to win, very bad controls, all good ppl left Trion.

  3. Razer on May 20, 2015

    When a company goes out of it’s way to stifle criticism, it’s because they know their product is a sham and they are trying to hide that fact from potential customers. Also because they are blissfully unaware of how the Streisand Effect works.

    • Razer on May 20, 2015

      And that dipshit moderator obviously doesn’t understand the concept of an idiom. You’d have to be pretty damn thick-headed and arrogant to believe that people are accusing any game of literally allowing paying players to automatically win. Anyone with an ounce of common sense and two brain cells to rub together understands that pay 2 win simply refers to games that offer an unfair cash-shop advantage over any free players.
      The only game that is P2W in the most literal sense is Combat Arms, which added an item for sale that literally lets you kick members of the other team for any reason you see fit, including for simply being better than you and your team, even in clan wars.

  4. archeAIDS on May 19, 2015

    I hate this game, I hate the makers, I hate the moderators, everything about it is trash. It is a pile of crap I played for a bit, wasted life…. PAY TO WIN big time, that is why they banned talk of it.

  5. unmarked on May 19, 2015

    its reddit… what do you expect?

  6. Cloak on May 19, 2015

    Reddit should be called garbage bin. Cause that’s all its filled with. The community, garbage! The posts, garbage! The mods, garbage! So AA should get over its self because it’s garbage. But not just garbage its garbage, its “pay-to-play” garbage! And even if you’re a founder you will be spending most of your time crafting and gathering. I really hope this is the last of its kind. Sandbox MMORPG’s do not work. AA is a example of that failure in that genre.

  7. bvsbdvabbb on May 19, 2015

    that is false,
    you can go in the subreddit and talk about the game being p2w
    you just cannot use that word or similar.

    basically if you want to say archeage is p2w in their subreddit now you have actually to argument
    because troll don’t play the game they can’t argument
    and because the game isn’t really p2w there no argument
    a genial move

    • Mentiroso on May 19, 2015

      Genial yes…they dont ban hackers and exploiters but ban “trolls”. *Genius.jpg*

      • mmobombisajoke.jpeg on May 19, 2015

        Are you saying reddit mods are trion staff?

        • bvsbdvabbb on May 19, 2015

          he sadly don’t know :/
          redditor mods are volunteers not associated with trion in any way
          members of trion staff on reddit have their own label and power to deal with the shit if they want

          trion do ban and permaban exploiters like they did two days ago
          reddit mods are not in charge on banning players
          reddit mods aren’t banning the troll on reddit either
          they are only forcing you to explain why a game is p2w without using that word.
          if people are unable to do that, then the mods are right

    • zxc on May 19, 2015

      They have troll detector ? I played this game alot, i know everything, trion or real devs dont give a shit about these bugs bots exploits, they try to grab more cash before closing this shit, its dead!

  8. Annonymouse on May 19, 2015

    The Streisand effect is the phenomenon whereby an attempt to hide, remove, or censor a piece of information has the unintended consequence of publicizing the information more widely, usually facilitated by the Internet.

    The moderator must be stupid.

    • zxc on May 19, 2015

      AGree, pure morans work there, now even more people will know whats going on in this piece PAY TO WIN of crap with subscription.

  9. xspamwsas on May 19, 2015

    I spammed their posts and made new threads saying it’s p2w, thuglife for me 😀

  10. Merkadis on May 19, 2015

    Shutting up mouths never ends well.

  11. Bloodmyth on May 19, 2015

    This was one of the few games that really had potential, on paper it has everything a mmo should have and it was fun to play but very quickly became obvious that it was a blatant money grab. Trion had a fairly good reputation prior to this, especially for a f2p company, that has gone now.

  12. MMOGirl on May 19, 2015

    ITS PAY TO WIN !!!!!!!!! Full of bots and a seriouslly TRASH GAME ! Do not try it or never go back to it ! IT SUX.

  13. PandaStick on May 18, 2015

    Game’s dead. Ignore it.

  14. zxc on May 18, 2015

    Pay to win is pay to win , they cant hide it and not even that, u need to pay for subscription also to be something there, they better fight tonns of bots and gold sellers and countless bugs, support there is useless, u never get back anything and will be banned for no reason, soon to be dead game, trion wuined reputation with this undone game!

  15. The Internet on May 18, 2015

    Reddit which is supposed to be the most open place for good discussion that sometimes goes as far as to replace a games ACTUAL forums is not something to be patrolled by a single mods personal choice of what people can and cannot talk about. It shouldn’t be long before he is removed from his position and that ban is lifted, his abuse of power is about as tragic as AA’s abuse of its cash shop and players.

  16. KainDarkfire on May 18, 2015

    I had a little hype for this game when it was still closed beta, but after playing it once, well, I’m just glad I didn’t get hooked, especially with all these great questionable practices involved.

  17. Welp on May 18, 2015

    Welp that’s what happens when you publish a game where the only way to get ahead or progress in the game involves money.

    • Leon on May 19, 2015

      Careful there, he’ll send a swat team after you next!

  18. Player 1 on May 18, 2015

    mmm they’re starting to look like infestation: survivor stories, banning everyone who’s asking for a refound due to an awfull administration haha

  19. Kek on May 18, 2015

    Kek, they are offended. Most top guilds in AA buy gold, Ironfist being one them.