The first round of the MMOBomb Ultimate F2P Tournament is over! It’s the most exciting round of a tournament like this we’ve ever done! What’s that? You say it’s the only round we’ve ever done? Technically still correct…

OK, let’s take a look at what we’ve learned so far…

Things went mostly according to form in the Warrior and Cleric divisions, with only two higher seeds claiming victory – one of them being a 9 beating an 8, which is only barely higher. Then we hit the Rogue division and everything went haywire. A late surge by The Lord of the Rings Online fans wasn’t enough to stave off elimination (more on that later), and the KingsIsle community rallied behind Pirate101 to help it advance to the second round.

But the biggest shocks came in the Rogue and Wizard divisions, where both #1 seeds were booted in the first round. Dota 2 and World of Tanks both lost – the latter in such a close matchup, we had to go to decimal points! Our guess? Dota 2 and WoT fans just considered it a shoo-in to win and didn’t bother showing up. It just goes to show that you can’t take anything for granted.

Many of the first-round matchups were cakewalks; that tends to happen in these kind of tournaments. It’s meant to give the “lesser” games a bit of the spotlight – and a chance to score the upset, as some did – before we move on to the main course. Now that some of the chaff has been whittled away, we should be able to get on to the more intriguing, and closer-fought, matchups.

Who will win? That’s in your hands!

A few maintenance notes

Just to clarify, we’re not playing favorites or “rigging” the contest in any way, despite what some comments have said. We did not inform any of our industry contacts about this tournament beforehand and the only notification we’ve given them otherwise is via the Tweets you’ve been seeing, which inform both sides of a matchup. It’s their choice as to whether or not they choose to rally their community to vote for their games.

One game that did a great, though belated, job of such rallying, was Turbine, for the first-round matchup between LOTRO and Mabinogi. Turbine started working its fans about three hours before the Monday deadline (after the matchup had been open for 69 hours) and, at the 1 p.m. Pacific deadline had almost surged into the lead.

Here’s where things get a little sticky. The polling site we were using doesn’t have any way to “close” a poll, so the best we could do was, at the deadline, start going through each contest and manually recording the results. We started right at 1:00, but, being fourth on the list, the LOTRO/Mabinogi matchup might not have been officially “closed” and recorded until about 1:01 or 1:02. After recording the results and updating the website – about 1:15 – we glanced back at the poll and saw that LOTRO had taken the lead. It was too late, but that still led to some confusion and consternation. And had we gotten to the matchup a few minutes later, it could have affected the results.

As such, we’ve decided to switch to a different polling site for the second and future rounds, as you’ve probably seen already. This one will allow us to close polls, which we will do promptly at 1:00 p.m. on deadline days, to hopefully avoid any future issues like this. Thanks for voting, and we hope to good luck to all the remaining participants!

Got all that? Good! Now, on to the voting!

Current matchups: Wizard Division, Round 2

The voting on this round will close on Friday, March 14 at 1 p.m. PST.

(16) Eden Eternal vs. (9) EverQuest
(12) AirMech vs. (4) Heroes of Newerth
(6) Neverwinter vs. (3) Warframe
(7) APB: Reloaded vs. (2) Wizard101

The winners of each division will face off to determine, once and for all, what is the best F2P game – or at least which game has the most rabid fans!

M 2/24: Warrior Division, Round 1
W 2/26: Cleric Division, Round 1
F 2/28: Rogue Division, Round 1
M 3/3: Wizard Division, Round 1

W 3/5: Warrior Division, Round 2
F 3/7: Cleric Division, Round 2
M 3/10: Rogue Division, Round 2
W 3/12: Wizard Division, Round 2

F 3/14: Warrior Division, Semi-Finals
M 3/17: Cleric Division, Semi-Finals
F 3/21: Rogue Division, Semi-Finals
M 3/24: Wizard Division, Semi-Finals

F 3/28: Warrior & Cleric Divisions, Finals
M 3/31: Rogue & Wizard Divisions, Finals

F 4/4: Warrior vs. Cleric Division winners, Rogue vs. Wizard Division winners
M 4/7: The Final Match-up!

Vote early, vote often, but whatever you do, just vote!

Michael Dunaway has been part of the MMOBomb team for years and has covered practically every major Free-to-Play title since 2009. In addition to contributing First Look videos and news articles, Michael also serves as the Community Manager for the upcoming MMORPG, Skyforge.


  1. For the guy who plays Mabinogi and he hates it because its p2w and complaining about the pets you have to pay for….. ARE YOU THE BIGGEST F******** WUSSY EVER!? I have been playing mabinogi for 5 years now and for the first 2 and 1/2 years i had literally NO MONEY for vip, pets, gaccapons, NOTHING!!!!! I did surverys for nx and got enough saved to put a kangaroo rat, pelican, and a thorough bred horse FOR FREE ALL IT TOOK WAS 3 HOURS, 30 MIN A DAY FOR 6 DAYS ITS CALLED EFFORT MAN! Mabinogi constantly evolves and has new aspects, sometimes nexon’s support staff could be faster in responding, but the issue reported is fixed before a response. Getting in game gold is easy if you just put forth the time, farming can net you 200k-450k depending on how well you take care of your farm. It takes a week, but in that time you can run dungeon, do the gens, do shadow missions, skill training, or leveling. Nexon has given away a total of 15 free pets NOT counting the ones you can get from events that reguire trade ins, like doki doki that is currently going on. They have given away COUNTLESS free items, and give bonus’ to new players and has a tutorial that actually engages you to teach you the skills you need, not just giving you instructions, but shows you the ropes. Yes if you spend money you get extra bonus BUT ANY GAME DOES THAT!!!!! Look at runescape the f2p experience is great but you eventually run out of stuff to do so you either quit or you go to being a member which gives you a ton of bonus’. Yes the clouds do quick healing thats easy, but you could just as easily get r1 healing, or r1 party healing, or idk r1 pot making and get the same amount of healing or higher. They cause enmies to go to sleep too? How about get r1 lullaby make a ton of enemies sleep and increase your damage. Oh frost dragon freezes enemies? How about get elemental wave and use frozen blast or idk USE REGULAR FROZEN BLAST. Scooter stuns enemies? How about get shock, or idk high rank sand burst (which is outrageously easy to attain). Oh flying pets? theyve given away 3 free ones and with doki doki if youd o the event without a pet. Vip gives extra xp and less dura loss? YOU PAY FOR THAT SERVICE. And it isnt a huge boost that gives an unfair advantage it just helps. And if you start as a human you get a free elf and giant card so you can explore EVERY aspect of the game. The games music is phenomenal, you think its tons of repeating? Thats called the f****** melody, the base music is the same, but then goes into the harmony. Belvast’ music is amazing, port qilla, shylien reserve, hilween mine, nuadhas theme, neamhain theme, morrigans theme, naos theme, ferghus’ theme, commercing music, the ending g3 fight scene and g2 and g9 and g10 and g11…you get the point. The music is enjoyable but it also draws you in. Not only that you can create your own music and play it on a VARIETY of instruments and can even make your own orchestra! there are 1000’s of armor/outfit combinations, dyes to change colors, and tons of mix up match up. The character is easily customizable and offers good choices, yes premium cards or pons allowws for better customization, but free stuff hows a nice range of customization too. All gens as of 7 years ago are free ot all players, transformations, demi, special upgrades, artisan, everything. The game encourages players to work together, you can solo if you like, but it makes it easier for the community to get together. How is mabinogi buying anymore votes than any other game? Every game in this event is doing events, telling people to vote, or giving links to this page. Mabinogi doesnt require you to have a million different characters to master skills, you can do it all one char(granted since there is so much in game content at the moment i thik it takes a 15k total to master everything right now?) And the game isnt good for just onew players they offer more advanced dungeons and sms to offer a fun expereince to vets. The game isnt just for teens, its a game that gets attention from young and old iknow people who are 9 playing all the way to 50!!!! its a game that rarely gets boring. You dont have to grind to enjoy since there are free rebirths, and while youre waiting you can play music, farm, hang out with friends or a guild, commerce….Its such an amazing game. I only played RO for maybe a week not my type of game, but it still doesnt compare to mabi. I dont even know how pirate101 made it this far, TOON TOWN WAS AND IS A BETTER GAME THEN PIRATE101!!!!!!! You can diss mabi all you want, but for evrything you said that is unfair or is p2w in mabi i will cite 10 exmaples proving youre inaccurate/wrong. You have to put forth effort, as in most fun games, without any effort how is it fun? you get bored, mabi is exciting and eventful. Now a game im sad to see not in this is Shin Megami Tensei online, not as good as mabi but still a great game none the less and deserves respect. You want to complain about mabi fine, but your only showing how lazy you are when the game offers more to f2p players than to those who pay, nuff said.

    • Mabinogi is my first MMO and ppl been telling me to try other games…I tried most of them and they are all generic click spam game. Not Mabinogi! It’s not a click spam game, its a game that require strategy on how to deal with monsters and boss, the story like is so good. Saving Goddesses, Betrayal, War, Backstabbing, Drama, Loyalty, Friendship. I love every part of it. I love it so much I have 8 characters and over 60 pets. So much fun these past 6 years. Many player stay many left but its still one of the best game I have ever played. Even if we lose in this Semi-final, I wont be angry…but I will be upset to lose or disqualify cause by cheating on both side.

  2. Mabi isn’t cheating its because we have a strong equal classless society that doesn’t war like the other selfish games which is everyone 4 themselves mabi allows others to help to improve game and forum society so it isn’t a war but a feud and we don’t have class restrictions the weapon rule is “as long as you can use it be a b**a** combo killing machine”. Others need to stop crying and face u were ur own downfall because u guys don’t want to reach out to others as much as we do (except mantainance that’s random sometime)still a good game though

  3. If APB:Reloaded wins in the F2P poll then i’ll get uber mad, that’s the most cheaters game ever … *** realize that all the cheaters probably gonna cheat this poll with fake accounts 2***

    • It doesn’t take an account to win this. It isn’t even IP based! Delete cookies and revote or open an InPrivate or incognito window & revote. Better yet, just set up a bot to do that for you. Cheating? Yep it’s happening since the polling site sucks.

    • how stupid do you think we are? 12087 votes? don’t you think that is really fishy? the other 3 rogue matches combined don’t have half that many votes. it is obvious mabinogi beat pirate101 how they beat lord of the rings online using cheating bots. but hey the people on this site don’t care that a game cheats to win

      • well then, you can say the same thing about SMITE’s winning.

        Or even Warframe, they have the most than their division currently, and will most likely keep having the most..had the most in their division in the last round, too.

        To someone without knowledge of what is happening, can seem like cheating to them, too.

        Also, SMITE’s votes jumped from 10k total to 8k total in their last round, which either means I was in the Twilight Zone, or there may be a preventive measure with this poll site, unlike the last one.

        • Also…
          66% of 12087 is 7997.42
          So the other 4109.58 had to come from somewhere else….and went somewhere else…leaving a 3887.84 gap…

      • If Mabinogi is cheating then every other game is cheating as well. In reality though, Mabinogi received so many votes due to promotion purely from the community. And it’s not easy either (those bugles cost real money).

      • Maddy’s comment is a complete mess, the poll mabinogi vs pirate101 got most of the votes compared to other polls because of the effort of both communities, they informed their players so don’t bring the cheating bot excuse here, based on your logic any MMO getting a lot of votes is not informing their players to vote but using cheating votes? fail logic is fail

        And btw In the poll lord of the rings vs mabinogi, the ones using bots was the lord of the rings get your facts straight.

        • I frankly don’t buy that LotRO was using bots.
          They got a message out, and in truth, it was Mabi vs. a Fandom at that point.

          Point is, there isn’t enough information, since the start of the pull, Mabi was getting votes in at a high rate of speed..

          Now any information to prove that LotRO was using bots would be needed to make the sale.

          • There were allegations of lotro using bots in the last minutes to win that poll, lotro was the one getting hundreds of votes in at high rate speed at the end of the poll.

            Now where is the information of mabinogi using cheating bots? ask maddy for it because no one is buying that

  4. I do hope Mabinogi will win this round. The gameplay is kinda slowpaced but I only liked the music part of the game and also the clothings and armours which are kinda cool.

  5. How EverQuest 2 lose to Ragnarok Online??? Come on, something is odd with this poll…

    EverQuest 2 have more players than Ragnarok Online which got replaced by Ragnarok Online 2. So it should be EverQuest 2 better than Ragnarok Online in terms of graphics, content, customer service(player service), bug fixes, everything..

    • Uh, maybe because Everquest 2 players aren’t aware of this poll? It’s up to the games’ community leaders whether they partake in any round of this poll or not.

    • I play both and was surprised that Warframe beat Vindictus. Go Warframe, you’re only in Beta but you still rock! 😀

    • Sadly all P2Ws are F2P…it something that can’t be helped, because without it the F2Ps would die fairly quick. Someones got to pay for the servers and everything else, and there ain’t no way in hell that someone is gonna do it out of the kindness of their hearts…greed rules the world after all.

      • I play STO and I love their thinking about F2P. – You can go EVERYWHERE and get EVERYTHING for free, also none of the newly added content with every season isn’t B2P. Thats why I can truly enjoy the game and btw. don’t regret any cent I spend in their item shop. So in my case “the kindness of hearts” works. 🙂

    • in the minds of children its P2W .. you can pay to own the same weapons you can rent, or you can pay to own the same cars you can rent, you can also pay to own clothes and car kits.. nothing you can pay for.. makes you win in APB .. only you ability to aim and outsmart the opposition makes you win..

      • Keep telling yourself this further, p2w child.
        Just one fact. – Why all Golds+Premium play in Silver districts, and then about 60% of them cry when I beat them as a Silver Free Account on the global chat?

          • poochyena, when saying “premium” I meant mostly all the incomparable guns from Armas, which you can’t get for free. – Somehow it is premium. About the exp, cash and customization bonuses I don’t care so much, but if the game would be enjoyable I would definitely buy the unlock for extended customization. + Patches are just a joke, when other mmo’s get new content, APB:R gets new gun… sry skin of a gun with new stats added to Armas. >.<

            Ionox, ppl like u r just an another example why APB:R isn't fun after a longer period of time.

  6. I don’t like these type of polls they start argruments and just make games hate others games while MMOBOMB is laughing their ass off of these we are acting like a bunch of monkeys. I for one don’t care even if my favorite game (Pirate101) is on the poll. I just don’t want to find out the “best” game is we all have different taste in games so don’t make fun of other games as simple as that. I could of ignore this and just move on with my life but this is unreasonable. Why do you think people make fun of us gamers? We get to butthurt and rage over the internet this is seriously unhealthy and needs to stop. I love playing pirate101 and I truely do but that doesn’t make since to hate a other game that you never played or dislike because other people love the game and they get butthurt over your comments. I for one am not going to fall for this trap that is set for gamers to fall in.

    • Wish there was more gamers like you that can keep a calm mind. I’m a Mabinogi fan completely but if it loses at some point o well kudos to the one that beat it. As you said we all have different taste just like how we all have different strengths. The biggest problem this poll has is it doesn’t restrict the votes to the people that have played (insert game here) to only vote for (insert same game here). So that opens up all these rage replies from all us monkeys.

      Sadly though as far as the trap goes…you and me both have already fallen into it just by being here and leaving our posts..

  7. If Mabinogi’s combat or gameplay isn’t unqiue, please I really want to know if there’s anything actually like it.

    You know, combo oriented combat that’s kind of similar to a fighting game, in that you have to consider positioning but also what attacks are viable where they all basically stun the enemy. Not just targeting an enemy and pressing a button to use a skill, or just doing so in sequence while minding the fire on the floor, I mean actually considering damage types, which attacks will keep you from being retaliated against and whether or not its viable based on your position etc. Tera isn’t really like that, WoW or any of the standard MMOs aren’t like that, seriously what is?

    I think Mabinogi is a spectacular game because of its combat, not to mention the fact that its supposed to have something for everybody like life skills or music, tons of clothes and a really social community, but god damnit is the administration horrific. The engine is old, you get your occasional hacking outbreaks, and in some cases its pretty pay to win (Yes, I’m talking about reforges, you can get a lot more potential damage out of reforges as compared to a skill/stat hoarding build, and is also just an RNG gamble)

    but the reason Im asking is because I love the combat more than any other MMO I have ever played. Its completely unique, as far as I can tell, which makes me feel like its completely under-rated, unless theres another game out there with similar combat or concept, in that case: i want to play it

    • Mabinogi’s biggest (Technical) flaw is it still uses the engine it came out with…back in 2003(true biggest flaw is that it is run by Nexon <<; )
      A major upgrade is needed but only to stop the server issues (massive lag spikes, constant d/c, hacks, etc)
      I agree that it is one of the most unique MMO games I have ever come across between the open class system and the rebirth system and deserves more hype

  8. “A late surge by The Lord of the Rings Online fans wasn’t enough to stave off elimination (more on that later)”

    Oh shut up, they were using voting bots and everyone knows it. And when someone tried to bring it to light what did you do? Turn off comments.

    The fact you let this shit slide is disgusting.

    • Except for the fact that there was a surge due to LOTRO drumming up interest through Twitter. They were tweeting for several hours, multiple times an hour to get fans to vote. Keep in mind LOTRO has 48 thousand Twitter followers.

      I take accusations of botting seriously, and I found no reason to believe the accusation held any ground. The game still lost and the competitor even had significantly less twitter followers, but had community support through official forums and their website.

      You can accuse them of botting all you want, but currently there are more facts to suggest no wrong doing.

    • if i were you i’d shut up. 12087 votes on mabinogi vs pirate101? there was obviously cheating involved there on mabinogi part. i only agree on 1 thing: “The fact mmmobomb let this shit slide is disgusting.”

      • I don’t think LOTRO was cheating. And neither is Mabinogi. Why don’t we actually call out Vindictus, SMITE, or Warframe out on cheating since they all had over 6k votes? Oh wait, I know, it’s cause we’re actually sane.

  9. so w8 are those riged cuz i saw what you did there.Why where you afraid you would lose your credibility? I dont get it but i am done here this chart is nothing now not even worth bringing up.

    • Has anyone here even tried Pirates101? It’s empty as hell and you have to pay to progress, it’s no contest against Mabinogi.

      • Pirate101 is currently empty because max out players are waiting for the next world.
        Pirate101 is a young game and is still earning players by the minute can’t wait till MMOBOMB will have a new champion.

  10. Only if players would vote on their game only now this is going to be who has the most people in their game will win or the most hated game out there will loose.

  11. I love how no pirate101 players aren’t complaining. Even if its Not free to play you still gotta vote on the game you think is better ^o^ not just because you don’t like a mistake or something about the game.

    • I think it’s hilarious how you can say that when all you have to do is take a look at pirate101’s facebook page to see the people whining and complaining and accusing people of cheating.

  12. I’m a little pissed to see LoL beat out Blacklight: Retribution when yesterday it was 45% LoL and 55% Blacklight: Retribution now not so much, im glad this site offers games more time based on how much money they’re offered.

    • And I am glad to see people still making baseless claims because they are irritated at something they have no control over.

      • It’s not baseless considering that an “error in updating this article,” has nothing to do with the votes the votes are 3rd partied and are not affected, by anything on this site. Plus your name is stupid.

  13. Pirate101 is kind of a pay to play game but you just need a subscription to play the game. Their subscriptions cost about 9.95 and a year is 80, sometimes its on sale for 60. There are companions in the game but you don’t have to buy them . You get a good amount of free companions that are equal or stronger than the crown shop companions. Their are some companions you get from storylines that are a little weaker than the crown shop companions but its not a big difference. There are also mounts which cost crowns, which is the currency for the cash shop but you get a free mount in the later areas. The pets, they are dropped everywhere so you don’t have to buy them. The ships you buy are for gold, and it’s not that hard to get gold. You can farm for items for free if you have a subscription. If you don’t, you gotta buy the area which cost crowns but if you buy it with crowns, you will have access to that area forever. The cash shop is just stuff that are “cooler” than the ones you get from quest. Some of the storyline companions are stronger than the shop companions. They are also good quality. Some company’s offers stuff for free but they are low quality and looks like crap compared to the shop ones. Also if you are in trouble and don’t look like you can finish the quest by yourself, you can post on a pirate101 fansite for help. Sometimes the fansites will offer farming, which can level your pirates ship up or to get more gold or help you one your quest. The free to play areas are short but if you have a subscription, your good. If you are an all nighter person, you can the finsh the game in a couple days. If you are slow, you can finish it in weeks or months.

  14. It’s entertaining to watch peoples’ reactions to polls like these. The fanboys always get fired up because they forget that this is nothing more than a simple popularity contest. Time to get the popcorn.

  15. An hour and a half in, and Mabinogi vs. Pirate101 already has almost more votes than any of the match-ups from the previous division…


    • i prefer a pay to play game to that shit game called mabinogi. have you seen the graphic on that crap of a game? even tetris has better graphics

      • You mean graphics of a game that was made in 2003? The game itself uses cartoon-shaded graphics, which is pretty good for a game from that age. I will say this, the game looks a LOT better than the graphics of P101 or W101.

  16. I almost expected World of Warplanes vs War Thunder Airforce.
    Too bad not a single person at MMOBomb knows about that awesome game.

  17. the game which will be posted somewhere in ofc game forums, have higher chance of winning so thus voting is dogy…

  18. this bad website doing mmo ultimate f2p ? and they never test this games after doing this ? very bad this is.. have game total f2p and they not receive 1 win lol i see who win and they have alot p2p itens

  19. wait…what.
    League of Legends is currently LOSING to Blacklight Retribution?
    I don’t like League but how the hell is that in any way possible given leagues IMMENSE following.

  20. this is my last time posting here. You might aswell hand this to smite right now. If 7.6k votes only lead to 36% ..that’s more than the total amount of votes you guys get for any other matchup.

  21. Smite is getting scripted as heck right now. Before this they had like 20k votes in favor of smite over that kingdom game. The total voting was the highest, and second highest was that Dota 2 upset. Some guy is literally just scripting going into incognito mode, and just voting over and over. Smite just doesn’t have the awareness or the ability to keep a forums up pull this many votes. This fast. They had a 80% lead within hours and a total of 6.8k votes cast. When the others barely had 500. No way.

    I call shenanigans

    • Marvel Heroes has a fairly long thread going on their official forums and some Reddit posts I believe. Just search “MMOBomb Marvel Heroes F2P Showdown” in Google. Their community response is picking up, but SMITE is still well in the lead at the moment.

    • lol ofc smite can get that many votes. One reddit post for smite, and so many replies. That’s what a game with a great community does.

    • You won’t believe how much smite growed right now. It never release official numbers but number of subscribed redditors alone is jumping by thousands everyday!

  22. Hey! What happed with the Smite vs Marvel votation? Last time I checked it had around 9000 votes, 8X% in favor of Smite. Now there is only 8600, 67% in favor of smite.


    • People at Eden Eternal voted near the end. It was about a 100 vote difference at the beginning of the day. Nobody at WoT even knew the poll was going on (or at least, their staff didn’t inform them).

  23. pirate 101 vs mabi huh ? since they’re both classic games i think mabi will win IF pirate 101 was actualy free 2 play i would change my mind 100% but it isnt so pirate 101 is at a BIG disadvantage since mabinogi finaly listened to the community and removed all the anoying restriction like inventory or mounts

    • Pirates101 is buying player votes by giving away free items if they win each round so they shouldn’t be underestimated.

      • Pirates sucks its so limited when I played mabinogi i am never restricted to class type so this show how well a player can be with a combo class or classic class
        (Fighter lance FTW)

        • The open class system, combined with the rebirth system is reason I’ve been playing Mabinogi since its Beta days (Mage/Warrior/Fighter/Archer/Alchemist/Gunner and a little of whats left lol)

    • Even by todays standards, Ragnarok Online is still one of the best (on private servers…official not so much). It’s sad that the population is dwindling.
      I’m amazed it beat DOTA2 though, considering RO’s prime was at least 5+ years ago. There was a time that official+private servers had bigger numbers than World of Warcraft during its prime…pretty crazy.

      Tis a classic, anyone say it’s a shit game is truly an uninformed monkey.

  24. We have a saying in accounting: garbage in, garbage out”. These numbers reflect bad game choice feuled by bad gaming community. “dota and tank” did notvrally because they dont come here… Mmobomb assumed they all would flock to a gimped voring event?? Lollllll….
    Maybe if Omer was hosting it… lol lol fail.

  25. TERA is the best free MMO out there. No gambling. No restrictions. True action combat. Beautiful graphics. Elin.

    • How long have you been playing TERA for? A day? Lol no gambling… open the store for your RNG lock boxes. Buy 50 and make the company happy that you’re trying for an Elin costume.

      Also, the masterwork is RNG gamble. In fact, that IS endgame. You couldnt be MORE wrong when you said no gambling.

      • I think by “no gambling” he was referring to the spy-crabbing for $2-$12,000 backpacks. Go hop on an unusual trade server and wee what goes down. I’ve seen $300 move all at once on a regular trade server once.

  26. Yep, no shenanigans going on in these polls at all…

    One poll that has one game winning by 85+% has more votes than all the other polls combined & has 3x more votes than it’s next closes poll. Move along, nothing to see here.

    • I would bet some of that has to do with which games people have played. For instance, I don’t actually vote in polls including games I haven’t played, because I don’t have an opinion on those games. Ideally, everyone will have at least tried each of the games in the whole showdown, but it’s really not reasonable to expect that. I’d just take the whole thing with a grain of salt and have fun with it.

    • You need to realize some fans have yet to hear their game is in the poll. We have seen games make huge comebacks once the community catches wind. Just go look at the previous polls as proof.

  27. Not to be a nitpicker, but I need to ask: Did the organisers define the difference between FTP and Freemium before the contest? Because I would strongly suggest that such clarification may eliminate some contestants.

    EG: DDO would be considered a Freemium game rather than a true FTP, as it requires subscription to maximise character progression. As with LotRO and EQ2. A true FTP would be unrestricted, other than aesthetic purchases and character boosts.

    • Well, I would argue that the category of free to play subsumes the freemium business model. Strictly speaking, a freemium game is free to play, if not free to play all the way to the end. I would say that people should take the game’s business model into account when deciding which game wins in a given showdown, but there is little reason to separate the likes of DDO and LotRO from games like League of Legends and Path of Exile, at least not in a fun little exercise like this.

        • Not really. Freemium typically refers to a game where certain content is placed behind a pay wall. While you can opt to buy champions in LoL, you don’t have to, and can instead play to unlock them. By contrast, DC Universe Online might be considered freemium, as it has entire content packs (power sets, story quests, etc.) that you have to pay to access.

          • Going by that logic then DDO is also free.. you earn TP by beating quests qhich can be used to buy all the map packs and character classes/races …..

          • Going by your criteria then, EQ2 is F2P. You don’t need to sub to access any content. In fact, the paid expansions are included free; buying them only gets you access sooner. DDO I’ll concede since content is locked unless you either unlock via cash shop or sub. LOTRO you can go to all zones without a sub or even buying the expansions, though you can’t do expansion questlines without buying the expansion; I’m not sure if expansion content ever goes free in LOTRO as it does in EQ2; so I’ll agree with your assessment of LOTRO as well.

        • League isn’t freemium whatsoever, since the champions go in rotation of being free and you can ‘buy’ locked ones with the in game currency which you earn by playing

          • In League’s case you are completely F2P as long as you only use the most basic level of play. ie: no skins, no boosts, grinding for weeks to get enough IP for that one champion you want to use but blowing it when you go use it on the runes you need…

    • You do NOT need a subscription to ‘maximize’ character progression in DDO. Been playing for years F2P and have a stable of big guns. There is content for purchase, but you earn free points from playing and can spend them on content or buffs or whatever you want. The ddowiki has a ‘play for free guide’ even.

    • I would have to agree & also why didn’t HELLGATE GLOBAL make the list at all. Out of all the crap games on the list they left out one of the best games ever!

    • It appears to be that they decide the F2P are any games that you can download and begin the game for free.

      Reason games like Pirates101 and Wizards101 manged to sneak onto the lists.

      I agree about the true F2P thing, but unfortunately a game like that wouldn’t be able to survive.
      Mabinogi is a good example, you can play it fairly well and get a very good character built without paying anything…BUT it will take you an extremely long time to do so. In this case the P2P portion becomes Pay to Win.
      SW:TOR is another example of a F2P being a P2W. There are plenty of other examples but I’ll leave that to the rabid fans/haters to expand upon(wouldn’t want to rob them of their fun).

  28. WoT lost in the first round not because ” fans just considered it a shoo-in to win and didn’t bother showing up”. People haven’t been voting for Eden Eternal. The’ve been voting against WoT, simple as that. Too much hate towards WoT here.

    DoTa situation I’m not even going to try to comment.

    The whole thing just shows that this “ultimate F2P showdown” is ultimately unobjective and in the and is an “ultimate bull****”.

    • Of course it’s not objective. The nature of polls is that they’re measures average opinion, and therefore rely on subjective information. Whether it’s just that people really liked Eden Eternal, or really wanted to see World of Tanks burn, it’s still inherently a subjective measure.

      • With scientific approach polls can be relatively objective. The proble is that MMOBomb isn’t treating this “ultimate showdown” seriously. So it’s results can’t be treated seriously either.

        • Let me rephrase my earlier statement. Opinion polls are inherently subjective because, again, they rely entirely on subjective information. Strictly speaking, there are types of polls that collect objective information, but opinion polls are not one of them.

          That said, I don’t think MMOBomb ever tried to pass this thing off as a serious scientific poll, so what’s the problem here?

          • Not really. While the experienced opinion is subjective, polls provide an objective measure of how much of these subjective opinions there are. A good poll measures accurately and representatively, and thereby gives an objective account of a subjective phenomenon.

    • People vote against options in polls all the time. The vote is still counted and doesn’t make the poll subjective. I’ve done this myself in the past when I was polled about political candidates. I didn’t know much about most of the candidates, but there was one candidate that I really didn’t agree with so I just voted for a random other choice.

      • Easy answer Pirate101 did Facebook advertising and Aion not so only the players form pirate101 know this poll.
        Same atm with Lol and Blacklight, Blackight postet this on FB and lol not.

      • Pirate101 is gaining fans. But not enough to defeat Mabinogi. And the game didn’t do no advertising except to get more people to play the game for fun, not win polls that don’t really matter

        • Aeryoth
          You right too, it isn’t a free to play, only in the first 4 freaking levels of the game.
          I cant get it over with that one of the most popular released games in a while lost to Pirate101

          • That “first 4 freaking levels” is what qualifies it for the F2P unfortunately..

            It and a few other games that call themselves F2P use that little loop hole to draw in gamers so they can reel them in and drain them dry..


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